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India decriminalizes gay sex

Epic Beard Man

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India discriminates period I’ve written on this already so it’s not surprising their gay minority population is antagonized
 

Luciferi Baphomet

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sayak83

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Historic India ruling legalises gay sex

Surprised on one has posted on this. To me it seems like a really big deal. I believe that homosexuality is not endorsed in Hinduism or Islam so this seems really a step in a secular direction for them.
There is nothing against homosexuality in Indian religions. Both the law and the social attitudes against it were imposed by Britain in the Victorian era.
 
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columbus

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So is Christianity, so is Judaism, so is other faiths, your point?
In my experience, neither Christianity or Judaism are nearly as homophobic (in the modern world) as Islam.
At worst the majority of C and J are disdainful but tolerant. A large, and increasing, number see homosexuality as an unimportant feature of some people. Their support for marriage as a concept outweighs the disdain.

I don't think that is true of Muslims as a whole.
Tom
 

Holdasown

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Yeah. He lost his marbles somewhere. The judgment was so controversial that the SC constituted a committee to look at privacy and individual rights... and the outcome is today's judgment.

Sorry this topic personally insulted you. Have a good day, y'all.
 

Stanyon

WWMRD?
From the article it says that homosexuals male and female used to face jail sentences of up to ten years, never understood the idea of putting gays in prison with members of the same sex- wouldn't it be more of a punishment for them to be in a prison with people of the opposite sex?
*Maybe it would cure them of their gayness

Overall, yes it seems to be a step forward

(*it's a joke)
 

Father Heathen

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India discriminates period I’ve written on this already so it’s not surprising their gay minority population is antagonized

Hell, they even discriminate based on make-believe things like "castes", so it doesn't come as a surprise. And if routine news stories are anything to go by, they have a rampant rape epidemic, so from that you could assume that it's a rather misogynistic society as well.
Also, they like to poop in the street so much that they had to release a PSA in an attempt to deter it.

 

Jainarayan

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I believe that homosexuality is not endorsed in Hinduism

It's neither endorsed nor condemned. Hinduism is pro-family and pro-procreation, but not anti-anything. In fact, in the epics and puranas there's a bit of gender-bending. Even Vishnu himself took a female avatar.
 

sayak83

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Historic India ruling legalises gay sex

Surprised on one has posted on this. To me it seems like a really big deal. I believe that homosexuality is not endorsed in Hinduism or Islam so this seems really a step in a secular direction for them.
Here is the link of the judgment. Its worth reading.
Full text of Supreme Court's verdict on Section 377 on September 6, 2018
This is direct quote,

The overarching ideals of individual autonomy and liberty,
equality for all sans discrimination of any kind, recognition of identity
with dignity and privacy of human beings constitute the cardinal four
corners of our monumental Constitution forming the concrete
substratum of our fundamental rights
that has eluded certain sections
of our society who are still living in the bondage of dogmatic social
norms, prejudiced notions, rigid stereotypes, parochial mindset and
bigoted perceptions. Social exclusion, identity seclusion and isolation
from the social mainstream are still the stark realities faced by
individuals today and it is only when each and every individual is
liberated from the shackles of such bondage and is able to work
towards full development of his/her personality that we can call
ourselves a truly free society.
The first step on the long path to
acceptance of the diversity and variegated hues that nature has
created has to be taken now by vanquishing the enemies of prejudice
and injustice and undoing the wrongs done so as to make way for a
progressive and inclusive realisation of social and economic rights
embracing all and to begin a dialogue for ensuring equal rights and
opportunities for the ―less than equal‖ sections of the society. We

have to bid adieu to the perceptions, stereotypes and prejudices
deeply ingrained in the societal mindset so as to usher in inclusivity in
all spheres and empower all citizens alike without any kind of
alienation and discrimination.

The question that is required to be posed here is whether sexual
orientation alone is to be protected or both orientation and choice are
to be accepted as long as the exercise of these rights by an individual
do not affect another‘s choice or, to put it succinctly, has the consent
of the other where dignity of both is maintained and privacy, as a
seminal facet of Article 21, is not dented
. At the core of the concept of
identity lies self-determination, realization of one‘s own abilities
visualizing the opportunities and rejection of external views with a
clear conscience that is in accord with constitutional norms.

the Indian Constitution is a great social document, almost revolutionary in its aim of transforming
a medieval, hierarchical society into a modern, egalitarian democracy

and its provisions can be comprehended only by a spacious, social-
science approach, not by pedantic, traditional legalism. The whole
idea of having a Constitution is to guide the nation towards a
resplendent future. Therefore, the purpose of having a Constitution is
to transform the society for the better and this objective is the
fundamental pillar of transformative constitutionalism.
 

sayak83

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We must realize that different hues and colours together make
the painting of humanity beautiful and this beauty is the essence of
humanity. We need to respect the strength of our diversity so as to
sustain our unity as a cohesive unit of free citizens by fostering
tolerance and respect for each others‘ rights thereby progressing
towards harmonious and peaceful co-existence in the supreme bond
of humanity. Attitudes and mentality have to change to accept the
distinct identity of individuals and respect them for who they are
rather than compelling them to ‗become‘ who they are not. All human
beings possess the equal right to be themselves instead of
transitioning or conditioning themselves as per the perceived
dogmatic notions of a group of people. To change the societal bias
and root out the weed, it is the foremost duty of each one of us to
―stand up and speak up‖ against the slightest form of discrimination
against transgenders that we come across. Let us move from
darkness to light, from bigotry to tolerance and from the winter of
mere survival to the spring of life ― as the herald of a New India ― to
a more inclusive society.


The Indian Supreme Court.
 
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