sandy whitelinger
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The first the words of the Bible. Why does this mean the beginning of the universe?
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In the Beginning...of What?
- Thread starter sandy whitelinger
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I read it as existence like our life had a locus a start. But I also understand that there is a horizon and beyond is physical. So here we go we zip as far as the mind can see. For me a long long ways. Now that we are way out here where ever that may be. Look down at your feet. There is mother earth right there. Where ever you go she is always there no matter what. And so to me she is huuuuuuuige... In a good way and we are little.
I know who's boss.
sandy whitelinger
Veteran Member
I didn't see much about Scripture here bit I'm glad you had a nice flight.I read it as existence like our life had a locus a start. But I also understand that there is a horizon and beyond is physical. So here we go we zip as far as the mind can see. For me a long long ways. Now that we are way out here where ever that may be. Look down at your feet. There is mother earth right there. Where ever you go she is always there no matter what. And so to me she is huuuuuuuige... In a good way and we are little.
Orbit
I'm a planet
It's a creation story, no different from the creation stories of other folklore. It's not meant to be taken literally.
It has no reference, because the science of the beginnings was not known at the time. In modern cosmology there are a number of possible beginnings, and possibly there was no beginning of our universe. It is possible that our universe is cyclic, possibly one universe among an infinite number in a multiverse, and possibly began as a black hole among many.
The universe at the time was simply our solar system from an Aristotle's perspective with e earth at the center. Most likely it was simply meant that God Created everything.
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Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
I don't know what else it could possibly mean. It says, "In the beginning..." and then goes on to describe the creation of the universe. It certainly doesn't have anything to do with God's existence, as He had existed prior to the creation of our universe, which I believe was not His first creation.
sandy whitelinger
Veteran Member
Im asking why it's assumed to be creation story?
sandy whitelinger
Veteran Member
It's not a science book. It starts a story though.
sandy whitelinger
Veteran Member
Ok, let's go a bit slower. I.know you know your Bible. In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. Why haven't we discovered the physicality of heaven?
sandy whitelinger
Veteran Member
Literally or not, I'm looking to understand the words themselves.
I believe we have it is our universe.
sandy whitelinger
Veteran Member
It seems to me that the universe separated heaven from earth.
Orbit
I'm a planet
It's pretty obviously a creation story, from the content of it.
sandy whitelinger
Veteran Member
Ok, where's heaven?
I agree that the material universe was Not God's first creation because according to Revelation 3:14 B the pre-human heavenly Jesus was God's beginning creation.
Orbit
I'm a planet
the story only mentions "the heavens", referring to the skies.
First, God created the heaven(s), so we have a spirit heavens, and the mid-heavens where the birds fly, besides outer space. God's home is heaven as per 1 Kings 8:39,49 meaning residing in the 'spirit heavens' which would be a realm independent of the material universe. Basically I find Genesis is about getting Earth ready for mankind to inhabit Earth. So, Genesis is Not so much dealing about matter or the material universe, but how Earth was arranged and prepared for us. To me, the beginning of the universe would be the beginning or the start of a permanent material/physical realm of existence for us.
It is repeatedly talking about separating A and B -- seas from clouds, Adam from the garden, Enoch from other people, Noah from other people, Abraham from Ur, Isaac from Ishmael, Jacob from Laban, Joseph from his brothers, on and on. Older and younger sons. It all leads to Israel separating from Egypt which launches into Israel's separation from all kinds of other things.
socharlie
Active Member
it rather say: God designed a plan...
Below is Fabre d'Olivete page from
"The Hebraic Tongue Restored"
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well origi
Because that's what we have been taught for a long time.