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I'm sorry. But I'm likely to do the same thing again.

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by PopeADope, Sep 14, 2018.

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  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. I tried not to make a mistake after apoligizing for it, then made the same mistake again

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  4. I don't make mistakes

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  1. PopeADope

    PopeADope Habemus papam

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    One thing I am at RF is the last person on this forum to tell you a lie.

    So, why do I say I'm sorry for something like Blaspheming God or stirring up hate for Islam, then apologizing, then doing the same thing? Isn't that a sign of dishonesty?

    No! It's a change of heart. I love Muslims. However, I don't like the Qur'an, Hadiths, or Sharia law. I practice Salat and I make sacrifices on Ramadan. I love mosques and love to pray with Muslims more than go to Church. I pray on my face more than five times a day. I have a kufi (Prayer cap) and turban given to me by a Somali Muslim I would pray with and do Qur'an studies with. Islam means "Surrender/submit to God". That's what I try to do.

    So, when I say I despise Islam, I'm being honest. When I say I love Muslims, I'm being honest. Sometimes I feel bad about the negative things I say about Islam. So, I apologize and mean it. It is a change of heart. Then, I see a Muslim diss another faith and argue that theirs is the truth, and I start attacking Islam. I make some mistakes in the process and sometimes apologize again.

    It isn't dishonesty. It is a change of heart. I am a sinner and I make mistakes. One thing I'm consistent about is that the Qur'an has some psychopathic verses. So does the Bible. I despise them both (but both have good verses too). However, Jesus was not like Muhammad. He didn't recruit a military to kill for him. He taught people "love your enemies, let the one without sin cast the first stone, turn the other cheek", and Jesus forgave the people who crucified him.

    Muhammad did and taught the opposite. So, as much as "Bible Christians" drive me nuts, I will always prefer Christianity over Islam for those reasons. I see predominately Christian countries have really gotten with the 21st century and many Muslims want to live like we are still in the barbaric Old Testament times or the dark-ages.

    I'm not saying Christians haven't done just as many bad things, but the founder of Christianity is who Christians are supposed to imitate, and he loved his enemies.

    Once again, my point being, there is much in Islam that I despise with every fiber of my being. There is much in Islam I find beautiful. There is much I find repulsive in the Bible. I'm consistent in my views as far as that goes. Where I'm not consistent is the emotions I have regarding God and sacred texts attributed to him. Sometimes I feel genuinely guilty about insulting the faith of humble, kind, meek people.

    So, those feelings of guilt lead me to say, "Sorry". I blasphemed God worse this week than I have done in years. I'm not just talking about online. I blasphemed and yelled at an evangelical Christian and at an AA meeting. I genuinely regret it and apologized.

    So, I'm 100% honest at RF. I don't have a lot of good qualities. One thing I am is honest and transparent. That is one of the only things I am consistently good at, even to a fault! But I make lots of mistakes and have mood swings where I say things that I regret. So, I say sorry, knowing I will likely make similar mistakes in the future. I hope you understand. A lot of people tell God they are sorry and keep committing the same sins. Can you relate?

    Any thoughts?
     
  2. Regiomontanus

    Regiomontanus Active Member

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    My thought brother is that you sound like one tortured soul. I hope you can find some peace but I can't imagine you will do so by posting here the way you do. Hopefully I am wrong.
     
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  3. Thief

    Thief Rogue Theologian

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    I thought I had erred ...once..... long ago

    but I was mistaken

    heheheheh
    sorry.....it was there
     
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  4. Thief

    Thief Rogue Theologian

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    but more to topic......

    sorting out the errors.....will prove a life time effort

    if your belief at this moment leads you to harm another......
    there will be a consequence
    perhaps not immediate
    and perhaps you might never realize what followed.....until much later

    deception is that sort of item
    first you get the wrong idea in your head
    you teach it to someone else
    years later you drop the practice having seen the fault

    and the other guy went on to be a real jerk

    your fault?
    and what will God and heaven need to do about it?

    picture this....
    I stand before Something Greater and They want to know
    what do you believe?
    my response will pivot my future and fate

    I tell what They ask.....and They take sword in hand
    the error must be stopped.....right now

    but not before asking WHO told you such things?

    then they go looking for .....you
     
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  5. PopeADope

    PopeADope Habemus papam

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    Is that a poem?
     
  6. Thief

    Thief Rogue Theologian

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    it does look like one
    maybe the term ...prose
     
  7. PopeADope

    PopeADope Habemus papam

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    Unless you are @Revoltingest ,
    Please explain why you voted, "I don't make mistakes".
     
  8. Jainarayan

    Jainarayan ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
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    That's a resounding yes. It's in my genes. Seriously... my DNA reports show a gene variant that predisposes me to not learning from my mistakes and making them over and over again.

    I'm not alcoholic nor do I become addicted to drugs. I'm dependent on my percocet for my pain from back surgery, but I don't take more than I absolutely need, nor jones for a dose. However, I tend towards OCPD.
     
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  9. Nakosis

    Nakosis crystal soldier
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    When people say they want honesty, they are usually lying.

    What most prefer is for you to tell them what they want to hear. That doesn't mean they don't love to catch you in a lie so they can assume moral superiority. Especially when you are telling them something they don't want to hear.
     
  10. Rival

    Rival Well-Known Member
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    I'm a thief when I want to be.
     
  11. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Ignorant Atheist Libertarian Capitalist
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    I picked <no> cuz I'm not big on apologizing.
    For example, I didn't apologize to @Rival for driving her away from the forum.
     
  12. BSM1

    BSM1 Who's a good boy?

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    Low hanging fruit, eh?
     
  13. Woberts

    Woberts Scholar of the First Sin

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    :shrug:
    I don't make mistakes.
    I am the High Priest of Lord Cthulhu.
    Tremble in his name.
    ;)
     
  14. PopeADope

    PopeADope Habemus papam

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    I want to be honest cuz it saves me and others a lot of grief.

    I didn't used to be honest. I am now.
     
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