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Featured I'm partially to blame for Salman Rushdie death

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Link, Aug 13, 2022.

  1. Link

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    The reason to me is because if I didn't get off medications, I would be a computer scientist right now working. If I was working as a computer scientist, I would feel better to write books because I took care of myself and so can write books that people won't see as just a person writing who can't take care of himself and has a mental illness and has too much time in his hands.

    These books would include proving Quran doesn't allow killing Salman Rushdie and so many other things.

    But Iblis tricked me, defeated me, and as a result, the whole world suffers.

    Am I the only one? No. Many can do this. But I can too. And I haven't done my duty.

    Many of us can save the middle-east and save the world over all from wars, suffering and get rid of dictators. But we are apathetic.

    Being a hero in a video game has prevented me be a hero in real life. Getting off medications has made me practically useless to humanity.

    I fear death for one and one reason alone. I have to help God's cause and want to help humanity. When I've done everything I can for God and humanity, then I don't mind dying.
     
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  2. The Hammer

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    Good luck friend.

    I recommend talking to a doc, and getting back on meds if they were helping you be happy and who you feel you truly are.
     
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  3. Link

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    Peace friend and thank you.

    I'm on medications. I mean if I never got off them over and over again.
     
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    I do not think he is dead - he is on a ventilar. There is still time for all to write their stories. Many of the best books were written by those with too much time, who saw differently.
     
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    @Link,
    I think only Salman Rushdie's attacker and those who praised his attacks are responsible for the attack.

    I didnt know Salman Rushdie died though, for some reason I was under the impression he survived his attack.

    In my opinion.
     
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  6. Brickjectivity

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    That is taking on a lot of responsibility. You know that we have to sleep for seven or eight hours out of each day. We are very limited. A man moves a mountain with only a shovel. He is responsible for that, not for the shovels of ten thousand people.
     
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  7. Link

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    I'm glad he is not dead.

    This is true, but middle-east don't think this way.

    My books are aimed at them and at Muslims in general.

    We have to severe the link.

    This is the easy way out. Silence is a way for people to hear that we approve. If I say nothing, it means to scholars "You are right in these views and none of your faction oppose you on this"
     
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    It's not. God gave me incredible insights to Quran and Ahlulbayt (a) words and has given me enough eloquence and writing skills to pull if off and I'm gaining more. I was too playful with life, medications, my illness, and the whole situation of Islam and politics.

    I deserve to go to hell if I don't try my best to change things, because I know I can.

    If I ever get off medications again, I'm an arrogant **** that deserves being abandoned, to die, and to go to hell forever.
     
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    I tried to change my group (Mormons), then left (child abuse).

    I've been reading research on techniques to change people's beliefs - like "How minds change" by David McRaney, and reading about those who escape harmful groups. Fascinating, how brainwashing works, tribalism, group think - we are herd animals for sure. Not anyone's fault, just laws of nature. Don't beat yourself up over others, or even yourself - attribution error, your actions are reflecting your environment - just how you were raised, not your fault.
     
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    Rushdie is a man of many overlapping cultural identities; a British educated Indian, an atheist brought up Muslim, at home in America, never quite belonging anywhere. His books reflect this. An artist of the modern world, a respecter of traditions but no traditionalist, always somewhat shocked by humanity’s capacity for tribal enmity, racism, nationalism etc. Definitely a lover not a fighter. Hope he pulls through, and if he doesn’t, hope he rests in peace. He would not want hatred against Muslims or any other group to be his legacy.
     
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    How many of those who don't suffer from mental illness write books to better humanity?

    You are no more responsible than the next guy. When I was a computer scientist I didn't have time to write books. Since I fell ill, I don't have the power.
    But I still can raise my voice every now and then, I can vote, I can sign petitions. And even though that has little impact, it is a net positive. I believe that every deed that is watched by others has an effect as we are a social species and we copy behaviour that seems beneficial or in accord with our social group.
     
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    Ironically, the attack has led to a huge increase in sales of The Satanic Verses. I hope his attacker has been informed of this.
     
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  13. loverofhumanity

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    Love your humility brother. Wish there were lots more like you around.
     
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    I want to give you every encouragement brother as we don’t have enough peacemakers in our world. Too many are prejudiced and too many good people remain silent.

    You know the saying that evil continues in our world because good people remain silent. We need to break down barriers of hate and prejudices between people and build bridges of friendship and goodwill between east and west and between the religions. Only people who really care can do that. I think you really care brother.
     
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    What on earth is "humble" about him bragging about his supposed ability to save the Middle East and solve world problems? :confused:

    Or were you being sarcastic?
     
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    IMO, not your job to save the world.
    If there is a God, I'd assume they could make use of anyway to save the world. Even a non-believer like me.
    If God's intent is the save the world, they probably know best how to go about it even if I don't.
     
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    Perhaps he was being sincere.
     
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    I'm sure he was. But that doesn't mean the claims were humble. :confused:
     
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    My guess is that it also led many Muslim organisations to condemn the attack.

    But there is an unholy alliance between the media and the militant Muslims. Both like to depict Islam as violent, the former because having a good villain sells papers, the later because it keeps Muslim radical and attracts angry youths.
    The peaceful Muslim need to find a way to be heard, especially by the Muslim community.
     
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    I don't think it's that moderate Muslims are not heard. It is more that every extremist incident pulls the rug from under them.
    It is no good simply insisting that Islam is a peaceful religion and that the extremists are not behaving according to the Quran and sunnah if the extremists can quote passages from the Quran and sunnah that appear to justify their actions.

    One of the biggest problems Islam faces is that it has no supreme authority to hand down definitive, binding interpretations and rules. Any suitably qualified "scholar" has as much legitimacy as a spokesman for Islam as any other.
     
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