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I'm hearing a lot of ignorant crap on Catholic radio these days.

Neutral Name

Active Member
It's entertaining often, though.

A guy calling up via telephone and saying that "homosexuality isn't natural and it's against God's order".

A priest on the air saying that viewing pornography, especially by underage minors, leads "to a life of violence and crime including murder".

Your honor, ladies and gentleman of the jury, my client is not guilty of murder by reason of pornographic influence. The porn industry is civilly liable for the death of the victim in this case. They twisted this boy's arms and made him do it. They made him kill that poor girl in the bedroom with a kitchen knife and some rope.

Another saying that "hetreosexual" men view gay porn as a "new way of feeling the rush".
If you are a man and excited by male parts and male bodies other than your own, you are NOT "heterosexual" at all. You are bisexual or possibly homosexual.

I find that ironic considering the number of pedophile priests and those in the Catholic Church which back them up.
 

JJ50

Well-Known Member
You know you're not going to scare anyone into ceasing their beliefs with that angry face, right..?

...The name calling doesn’t seem productive either.

It should be illegal for anti-gay sickos to target gays with their evil nastiness, especially when they use that not so good book as an excuse.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
In human beings, homosexual behaviour is against God's Order.
Against your interpretation of God's order, perhaps. Every religion and sect seems to have it's own views on the matter, yet none seems interested in actually investigating the question.

If God doesn't approve of gays, why does He persist in making so many of them? If homosexuality isn't natural, why is it so widespread throughout the animal kingdom? Are the animals choosing to reject God's plan? Is Satan leading them astray?

Diversity is important in a species' survival. Natural selection needs a variety of physical and mental traits to select from if populations are to adapt to environmental changes. This is particularly important in long-lived, K-selecting organisms like us.
Maximizing diversity is the biological function of sex. A certain percentage of homosexuals seems to be beneficial, even in stable environments. The evolutionary puzzle of homosexuality
 

JJ50

Well-Known Member
Against your interpretation of God's order, perhaps. Every religion and sect seems to have it's own views on the matter, yet none seems interested in actually investigating the question.

If God doesn't approve of gays, why does He persist in making so many of them? If homosexuality isn't natural, why is it so widespread throughout the animal kingdom? Are the animals choosing to reject God's plan? Is Satan leading them astray?

Diversity is important in a species' survival. Natural selection needs a variety of physical and mental traits to select from if populations are to adapt to environmental changes. This is particularly important in long-lived, K-selecting organisms like us.
Maximizing diversity is the biological function of sex. A certain percentage of homosexuals seems to be beneficial, even in stable environments. The evolutionary puzzle of homosexuality

Good post.
 

Catholicus

Active Member
Against your interpretation of God's order, perhaps. Every religion and sect seems to have it's own views on the matter, yet none seems interested in actually investigating the question.

If God doesn't approve of gays, why does He persist in making so many of them? If homosexuality isn't natural, why is it so widespread throughout the animal kingdom? Are the animals choosing to reject God's plan? Is Satan leading them astray?

Diversity is important in a species' survival. Natural selection needs a variety of physical and mental traits to select from if populations are to adapt to environmental changes. This is particularly important in long-lived, K-selecting organisms like us.
Maximizing diversity is the biological function of sex. A certain percentage of homosexuals seems to be beneficial, even in stable environments. The evolutionary puzzle of homosexuality

God doesn't make people homosexual - hereditary or social environment do that.

God approves of people of homosexual disposition (orientation) - but warns that homosexual behaviour (like all forms of sexual activity other than straight sex within monogamous marriage) will damage (or even destroy) the human soul.

This was universal Christian teaching until the Western's world's descent into liberal decadence in the 1960's.

Cannibalism is fairly widespread in the animal kingdom. Male tigers sometimes kill their own offspring.

Should these behaviours, too, be copied by human beings ?
 

Catholicus

Active Member
I find that ironic considering the number of pedophile priests and those in the Catholic Church which back them up.

Paedophilia - like all sexual deviations - is at epidemic proportions throughout the Western world.

Some of it has, horrifyingly, seeped into Christian denominations (not ONLY the RCC !).

Why this tsunami of decadence and deviation ?

Partly because doomed, decadent civilisations generate such things.

Partly too, because of contraception - even when used within marriage, it is sexually deviant; hence contrary to the doctrine of the Church.
 

Catholicus

Active Member
Total nonsense. Anal sex is not damaging at all if you do it correctly. Not all gay men even have anal sex, and plenty of straight couples do. Hell, it was a common form of contraception in the Middle Ages.

Nature has nothing against homosexuality, otherwise it wouldn't be so common in animal behavior. Other animals partake in non-reproductive sexual acts, too. I'm not sure why you Catholics claim to care about nature since you believe nature is corrupt and sinful due to the fall. Jesus and Paul didn't encourage marriage and family life, anyway.

Nature is "red in tooth and claw" - should we be so ruthless as well ?

Anal sex is always damaging spiritually, since it is contrary to God's design.
 

Catholicus

Active Member
Anti-gay bigot!!!:mad:

In your opinion.

But in my opinion, it's your opinion that is crazy - and bigoted.

To encourage people of homosexual orientation to be sexually-active homosexuals, or applaud their being so - is the worst thing one can do to them.

Thus it is liberals like you who are anti-gay.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Paedophilia - like all sexual deviations - is at epidemic proportions throughout the Western world.

Some of it has, horrifyingly, seeped into Christian denominations (not ONLY the RCC !).

Why this tsunami of decadence and deviation ?

Partly because doomed, decadent civilisations generate such things.

Partly too, because of contraception - even when used within marriage, it is sexually deviant; hence contrary to the doctrine of the Church.

A simple psychological insight is that those who
go on so about decadence and perversion are
actually talking about their own issues.

You are welcome to spill your guts but get to the
point, which is NOT pointing at others.
 

JJ50

Well-Known Member
In your opinion.

But in my opinion, it's your opinion that is crazy - and bigoted.

To encourage people of homosexual orientation to be sexually-active homosexuals, or applaud their being so - is the worst thing one can do to them.

Thus it is liberals like you who are anti-gay.

That is a really SICK comment you unpleasant anti-gay bigot!:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
 

Catholicus

Active Member
A simple psychological insight is that those who
go on so about decadence and perversion are
actually talking about their own issues.

You are welcome to spill your guts but get to the
point, which is NOT pointing at others.

"A simple psychological insight blah di blah..." - simple, because Fake.

In fact, it's not an "insight" at all - just a very simple (though by now over-used !) technique of attempted character-assassination.

But if you think it is a true insight after all, perhaps you should tell the conservative Muslims who cruelly mistreat homosexuals, that they do so because they themselves are sexually deviant.

Good luck with that ! In fact, they simply hate and misunderstand homosexuals.

Whereas I don't - merely point out that homosexual acts are sinful.

Which is hardly "pointing the finger" - since by Christian doctrine (which I accept) we are all sinners.

It isn't pointing the finger to point out, for example, that misuse of alcohol, or adultery and fornication, are sinful. Why the mysterious exemption for LGBT behaviour ?

Regarding decadence - all of us in the West are decadent in this or that way, to this or that extent.

Which is why the West is rapidly coming unravelled and in its current form at least, terminally ill. .
 

Audie

Veteran Member
"A simple psychological insight blah di blah..." - simple, because Fake.

In fact, it's not an "insight" at all - just a very simple (though by now over-used !) technique of attempted character-assassination.

But if you think it is a true insight after all, perhaps you should tell the conservative Muslims who cruelly mistreat homosexuals, that they do so because they themselves are sexually deviant.

Good luck with that ! In fact, they simply hate and misunderstand homosexuals.

Whereas I don't - merely point out that homosexual acts are sinful.

Which is hardly "pointing the finger" - since by Christian doctrine (which I accept) we are all sinners.

It isn't pointing the finger to point out, for example, that misuse of alcohol, or adultery and fornication, are sinful. Why the mysterious exemption for LGBT behaviour ?

Regarding decadence - all of us in the West are decadent in this or that way, to this or that extent.

Which is why the West is rapidly coming unravelled and in its current form at least, terminally ill. .

Keep it up, there wont be anyone but you who disagrees
with me.
 

JJ50

Well-Known Member
I am of the opinion anti-gay bigots, who are very vocal on the topic, could well be gays in denial.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
Nature is "red in tooth and claw" - should we be so ruthless as well ?

Anal sex is always damaging spiritually, since it is contrary to God's design.
Nature has death and violence, but also affection and kindness. It's everything. All things. Same with humans, as we are part of nature.

I don't care about your deity's laws since I don't worship him and your idea that it's spiritually damaging is just a belief that you cannot prove. To me, there's nothing wrong with it and it can be quite healthy if done correctly. Notice that doctors don't advise patients to stop having anal sex. They just give them condoms and lubes, so they can do it safely. If it were that dangerous, they would tell people not to have it at all.
 
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