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Featured I'm hearing a lot of ignorant crap on Catholic radio these days.

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Jonathan Bailey, Jul 4, 2019.

  1. Jonathan Bailey

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    It's entertaining often, though.

    A guy calling up via telephone and saying that "homosexuality isn't natural and it's against God's order".

    A priest on the air saying that viewing pornography, especially by underage minors, leads "to a life of violence and crime including murder".

    Your honor, ladies and gentleman of the jury, my client is not guilty of murder by reason of pornographic influence. The porn industry is civilly liable for the death of the victim in this case. They twisted this boy's arms and made him do it. They made him kill that poor girl in the bedroom with a kitchen knife and some rope.

    Another saying that "hetreosexual" men view gay porn as a "new way of feeling the rush".
    If you are a man and excited by male parts and male bodies other than your own, you are NOT "heterosexual" at all. You are bisexual or possibly homosexual.
     
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    There is nothing wrong with being gay, but I certainly don't approve of minors viewing pornography.
     
  3. Jonathan Bailey

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    No, children have no business looking at porn. When I was 13, I peeked inside a Playboy for the first time at a convenience store when I thought nobody was looking. It didn't turn me into a dangerous villain, however. I peeked inside a Playgirl as well just to see what that was about. I was surprised to see naked men in it. I expected to see naked women in Playboy, however.
     
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    BSM1 Who's a good boy?

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    When I was 10 I discovered two things that would shape my life: Chess and Mad Magazine. I feel I would have been a better man if that publication had been Playboy instead....just sayin'.
     
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    In human beings, homosexual behaviour is against God's Order.

    Pornography corrupts people - making it likelier they will commit acts of violence.
     
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    What makes you think that pornography corrupts people? You need to support that claim with hard evidence. Studies show that pornography lowers the rape rate. I can support that claim can you support yours?
     
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  7. Jonathan Bailey

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    God did NOT wire the human brain to be gay-proof. Same-sex attraction is naturally wired into the brains of some people in the womb. The majority of us are probably wired to some degree of bisexuality at birth.The majority of people probably are aroused by the thought, sight, smell and/or sound of another person of the same sex at some point over their lifetime.

    Human sexuality starts not with the raw acts if the flesh but with the thoughts and the senses: the arousal, the curiosity, the courtship, the romance, the learning about private parts, the interests, the emotions and the imagination.
    Animals are mostly driven by instinct.
     
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    An unpleasant belief, not a fact.
     
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    A fact, because homosexuality is a sterile form of sex, therefore inferior to heterosexuality under the laws of nature (as well as those of God).

    That homosexual behaviour is physically and emotionally damaging is proven medical fact.

    That it is NOT spiritually damaging (as you believe) is a belief, not a fact - a reckless and unpleasant belief, since it leads people of homosexual orientation to behave self-destructively and in some cases, to forfeit Heaven for Hell.

    God's commandments are compassionate - liberal commandments (e.g. "Have gay sex, if you want !") are evil, leading people astray to their ruin in this world, and sometimes in the next world also.
     
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    Anti-gay bigot!!!:mad:
     
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    Homosexual attraction is blameless.

    Acting upon that attraction is blameworthy.

    Similarly, all human beings have much anger built into them - but using that anger unrestrainedly is evil.
     
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    It all depends on which study you quote, doesn't it ?
     
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    Song of Solomon is pretty erotic.
     
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    That guy was having it off with a host of concubines.
     
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    I don't think so, but I suppose people interpret it differently.

    About Song of Songs: Erotic Love Poetry
    www.gardenenclosed.com/S of S page 2.htm
    The Song of Songs (also known as the Song of Solomon) is one of the greatest pieces of erotic literature ever written. Consisting of intense expressions of physical love, this classic poem describes the voluptuous beauty of lovers longing for one another.
     
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    What else do you do with 700 wives and 300 concubines? I is a wonder it drop off exhausted by all that activity.:D
     
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    The Song of Songs is unique within the Hebrew Bible: it shows no interest in Law or Covenant or the God of Israel, nor does it teach or explore wisdom like Proverbs or Ecclesiastes (although it does have some affinities to wisdom literature, as the ascription to Solomon indicates); instead, it celebrates sexual love, giving "the voices of two lovers, praising each other, yearning for each other, proffering invitations to enjoy".

    The two are in harmony, each desiring the other and rejoicing in sexual intimacy; the women of Jerusalem form a chorus to the lovers, functioning as an audience whose participation in the lovers' erotic encounters facilitates the participation of the reader.

    Song of Songs - Wikipedia

    Solomonn's "kingdom" is hugely exaggerated, but the point here is not that.

    Weren't you ever madly, passionately in love?
     
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    Total nonsense. Anal sex is not damaging at all if you do it correctly. Not all gay men even have anal sex, and plenty of straight couples do. Hell, it was a common form of contraception in the Middle Ages.

    Nature has nothing against homosexuality, otherwise it wouldn't be so common in animal behavior. Other animals partake in non-reproductive sexual acts, too. I'm not sure why you Catholics claim to care about nature since you believe nature is corrupt and sinful due to the fall. Jesus and Paul didn't encourage marriage and family life, anyway.
     
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    Not really. If one sticks to peer reviewed studies published in well respected professional journals your claims do not pan out.
     
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    My favorite line in any movie ever was when Kathryn Hepburn said..

    “He came down from the North to Paris with a mind like Aristotle's and a form like mortal sin. We shattered the Commandments on the spot.” ― James Goldman, The Lion in Winter
     
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