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Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Jonathan Bailey, Jul 5, 2019.

  1. Jonathan Bailey

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    create a living being in your own image and give this being a free will?

    Why is man bad?

    All because of the free will given him by God. Man is a bad design from the beginning.
    A free will is the pinnacle of human imperfection.

    If I were building a computer and I don't want it to commit errors, I would strive to program it not to do such.

    I would want my creation to conform strictly to MY will.


    I can see how religious faith can get really trying and very tough to maintain in such a world filled with misery, suffering, war, poverty, selfishness, greed, cruelty, death, destruction, illness, deformity of babies, handicaps, gross bodily functions (as BO, vomiting, defecation and urination), filth, squalor, crime, unjust killings, unjustified anger, hatred, bullying, cowardice, destructive natural events, loneliness, ignorance, thoughtlessness, carelessness, negligence, irresponsibility, lies, deception, violence, hunger, famine, drought, pestilence, overpopulation, pollution, government corruption and environmental decay.

    Is the devil really the Father of All the World's Troubles? Isn't God more powerful than the devil? Why does the devil seem to prevail in this world?

    The world really looks and feels like hell to me.
     
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    Humans are creating robots with intelligence. Maybe in the future they will be living and breathing too.
     
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    A creation is as only as good as its creator.

    A creation should be expected to be no
    better than its creator.

    The human race is junk and thus makes junk.

    By this logic, God is junk also, unless you believe the devil turned an otherwise perfect creation, man, into junk.
     
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    Why do you describe the human race as junk?
     
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    Because of some arbitrary catch-22 standards put forth by a random group of ancient goat herders.
     
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    It has been created and continues to be upgraded.
     
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    I would play Zeus, wander around in the clouds and throw lightning bolts at Donald Trump.
     
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    No one aside a fool would be so nasty. That does not mean that another would be responsible for ones becoming.

    "From an inconstruable beginning comes transmigration. A beginning point is not evident, though beings hindered by ignorance and fettered by craving are transmigrating & wandering on. What do you think, monks: Which is greater, the tears you have shed while transmigrating & wandering this long, long time — crying & weeping from being joined with what is displeasing, being separated from what is pleasing — or the water in the four great oceans?"​
     
  10. Willamena

    Willamena Just me
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    I have that power. I am woman (hear me roar).
     
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    We were created by the Anunnaki, aliens who came from another planet who depleted their own planet of gold and were too lazy to mine the gold here themselves, so they made human slaves without free wills. They were all men.

    Some rebel aliens in the group felt sorry for the human slave men, and made human females so the men could reproduce.

    Then it was proposed by the same rebel aliens that the humans also needed free will, and our original alien creator had problems controlling us, instituted rules and worship out of fear, and things just got out of control from there.
     
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    Your post makes no sense at all.
     
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    :D
     
  14. Jonathan Bailey

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    Because this world looks largely like crap to mine eyes and I think man is the greatest single contributor to the crappiness of this planet. Man makes things rotten for himself.
     
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    How sad, that you can't see there is a lot of good things humans do too.
     
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    "create"

    A rather singular word that can create such unmitigated chaos is phenomenal.

    I can create an entire reality predicated on it.

    I created my daughter.

    I created existence

    I created me.


    To create, should be a word never created because words themseves are a creation by creators babbling on about

    Create....


    As an artist personally i find it annoying. Try actually doing something. Actually create something other than creating on about create.
     
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    Aupmanyav Be your own guru

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    That is exactly what YHWH/God/Allah did. He gave humans free will so that they will make mistakes. He sent messengers after messengers, each claiming to be one better than the other, so that humans could fight about it. And in the end, he would say 'you did wrong' and send them to eternal hell and see them being fried. He did the same with Adam. Kept all the ammunition around, Eve, Serpent and the apple; and disappeared from the scene. And then threw them to Earth to suffer. Who was at fault? Adam? Eve? Then he said 'All humans are born sinners'. Or did Jesus say that? God is a sadist.
    Women are power. We have always believed that. You don't have to roar. It will harm your lyrinx.

    [​IMG] Mother Durga
     
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    Of course I would. One of me isnt very many.
    AND, "You're never alone, when you're a clone"
     
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    That is really too bad. You get one shot at life,
    in all of eternity.
    Things got so bad for me at one point, that
    I was one knee hooked over the balcony
    rail, 17 floors above the sidewalk In HK.

    Things are a lot better for me now!
    I hope you can say the same, some day.
     
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    There are a few possible reasons for this, but I'm not going to go into that and instead focus on the only one that matters: are you feeling okay?
     
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