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If you have any questions about Islam, just ask. But please, no bashing, not ridiculing.

MyM

Well-Known Member
You have to be patient. Mohammad (s) was accused of all sorts of things including being a lying sorcerer doing magic both from miracles and that Quran was a means of sorcery on his followers. The magic was not totally denied by Quran, because it has some truth to it, Quran and Mohammad's (s) power as Pole and Guide to heal goes together, but it's truth and higher then magic, but true power from God "You did not throw when you threw but God threw". Quran would work with his Sunnah and his Light and his holy spirit to guide, but it was and still is truth.

The world is magical, and Mohammad (s) is truth in it. Quran is the truth by which the true power from God can guide us and Angels help us.

gotta be careful for some when you say magic, they take it so serious

In Islam, messengers were given the power to perform miracles. In Islam It is what Allah wanted.
 

Link

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Premium Member
gotta be careful for some when you say magic, they take it so serious

In Islam, messengers were given the power to perform miracles. In Islam It is what Allah wanted.

The Quran talks about RISQALLAH in context of the magic they are accused. RISQALLAH annuls all dark magic and overpowers it. Why does Quran tell us God wants us to worship him? So he can give us RISQ from himself. The sky reality is filled with lanterns that he adorned for those who look.

Mohammad (s) is MAGIC and LIGHT, he is the TRUE POWER and RISQALLAH.
 

KWED

Scratching head, scratching knee
There is so much hate. I don't understand why people hate so much. Is it a threat to them or what? If it's all athiests, I don't really care to embark upon arguing with them. It's all a vicious circle over and over the same stuff they dish out. No matter what you say to them, they have so much hate for any religion that it shows their true quality. I just don't like to discuss with them because they turn religion into bashing and temper tantrums, like the one I had to put on ignore last night.
At least you won't have to worry about that on this thread. All you have to do is answer people's questions.
Are you going to answer mine? I am genuinely interested in your answers as the questions seem important.
Thanks.
 
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MyM

Well-Known Member
The Quran talks about RISQALLAH in context of the magic they are accused. RISQALLAH annuls all dark magic and overpowers it. Why does Quran tell us God wants us to worship him? So he can give us RISQ from himself. The sky reality is filled with lanterns that he adorned for those who look.

Mohammad (s) is MAGIC and LIGHT, he is the TRUE POWER and RISQALLAH.

One more before I go for my run lol

In Islam, Mohammad is a guidance for mankind. He was sent as a mercy for the world. He performed miracles as many messengers before him did. Allah has granted us the Quran and Mohammad pbuh taught us by it. Allah is the granter of risq and the Quran is a healing as well (ruqiya). In Islam, It is many splendid things for those with understanding.
 

Link

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Premium Member
One more before I go for my run lol

In Islam, Mohammad is a guidance for mankind. He was sent as a mercy for the world. He performed miracles as many messengers before him did. Allah has granted us the Quran and Mohammad pbuh taught us by it. Allah is the granter of risq and the Quran is a healing as well (ruqiya). In Islam, It is many splendid things for those with understanding.

Yes you are right and we can't be granted anything of Mohammad's (s) table except by God's permission. Mohammad (s) is light created by God and we can't connect to God without him. The light no matter where it is, is one. It's all connected. We are all connected, and the highest connection and emanation, is Mohammad (s). He has been commanded in Quran to connect who he can though.

May God free of us attachment to the shadows and lower world, and unite us with Mohammad (s) in this world and next, and make us die on his creed.
 

epronovost

Well-Known Member
I answered your questions and that is what I stand upon.

I think you are not being forthright with where you derive your own information about Islam or that you are presenting yourself as some sort of specialist on Islamic literature and culture without having enough knowledge as to its actual diversity and scope transforming the this thread from "ask question about Islam" to "ask question about my personal beliefs" which is a very different kind of thing.
 

Brickjectivity

wind and rain touch not this brain
Staff member
Premium Member
There is nothing wrong about visiting a mosque :) They will welcome you.

It is a place where men and also women(they have their section as well if they wish to attend), they go there to offer their prayers to Allah. They line up in straight rows, feet touching feet, and they pray in synchronization the steps of prayer that was taught by Mohammad pbuh. They say Quran and then after they pray, they leave. They are to do this 5 times a day.
It sounds like if I went into a mosque I would be there to pray to Allah, so it would be like converting by walking through the door. A lot of churches are not so active. Mosques have prayer 5 times per day, and that is different from churches.

I could walk into a church and then walk out and see not a single person pray. Churches are busy on particular days, but most of the week they are not. There are some which have daily services that include prayers but most do not. On a busy day a church will have some prayers. Some churches have prayer rooms which are exclusively for praying. They have kneeling cushions and a few scriptures on the wall or in frames, perhaps a prayer book or they may look like the chapels in hospitals with some stained glass and a couple of pews. A church often has an entry room that is simply for walking around in, and there may be pamphlets on tables or printed schedules. There are usually some small rooms, a restroom, a small kitchen, possibly a meeting room in addition to the room with all of the pews. Some also have a private school attached.

It sounds like the mosque is for prayer, so if you go in you are going to kneel and bow and pray to Allah. I wonder if a Christian can do this in good conscience since we are not muslims. Maybe we can or maybe we cannot. It is something Christians would not all agree about. Its possible for us to interpret scripture that way, but I think its a gray question. A lot of people might feel like it is a sin because of very strict views about what worship is. Most evangelicals would feel it was not allowed. I don't know what catholics would think about it or what many other groups would think.
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
I think you are not being forthright with where you derive your own information about Islam or that you are presenting yourself as some sort of specialist on Islamic literature and culture without having enough knowledge as to its actual diversity and scope transforming the this thread from "ask question about Islam" to "ask question about my personal beliefs" which is a very different kind of thing.

Can you tell me how different these "Islam's" you are talking about in Quranic interpretation? Can you give a brief?
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
It sounds like if I went into a mosque I would be there to pray to Allah, so it would be like converting by walking through the door. A lot of churches are not so active. Mosques have prayer 5 times per day, and that is different from churches.

I could walk into a church and then walk out and see not a single person pray. Churches are busy on particular days, but most of the week they are not. There are some which have daily services that include prayers but most do not. On a busy day a church will have some prayers. Some churches have prayer rooms which are exclusively for praying. They have kneeling cushions and a few scriptures on the wall or in frames, perhaps a prayer book or they may look like the chapels in hospitals with some stained glass and a couple of pews. A church often has an entry room that is simply for walking around in, and there may be pamphlets on tables or printed schedules. There are usually some small rooms, a restroom, a small kitchen, possibly a meeting room in addition to the room with all of the pews. Some also have a private school attached.

It sounds like the mosque is for prayer, so if you go in you are going to kneel and bow and pray to Allah. I wonder if a Christian can do this in good conscience since we are not muslims. Maybe we can or maybe we cannot. It is something Christians would not all agree about. Its possible for us to interpret scripture that way, but I think its a gray question. A lot of people might feel like it is a sin because of very strict views about what worship is. Most evangelicals would feel it was not allowed. I don't know what catholics would think about it or what many other groups would think.

Why do you have to do rituals when you go into a mosque?
 

epronovost

Well-Known Member
Can you tell me how different these "Islam's" you are talking about in Quranic interpretation? Can you give a brief?

Shia–Sunni relations - Wikipedia

Here's a very short resumé for the difference between Islam two most popular branches. I'm not an expert at all on the subject; that's why I wanted to know where that person stood so I could actually ask more precise question and deepen my knowledge behind resumé like these on Islamic literature and culture.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
There is so much hate. I don't understand why people hate so much. Is it a threat to them or what? If it's all athiests, I don't really care to embark upon arguing with them. It's all a vicious circle over and over the same stuff they dish out. No matter what you say to them, they have so much hate for any religion that it shows their true quality. I just don't like to discuss with them because they turn religion into bashing and temper tantrums, like the one I had to put on ignore last night.

Looks like this "hate" and intolerance
is a matter of psychological projection.
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
Shia–Sunni relations - Wikipedia

Here's a very short resumé for the difference between Islam two most popular branches. I'm not an expert at all on the subject; that's why I wanted to know where that person stood so I could actually ask more precise question and deepen my knowledge behind resumé like these on Islamic literature and culture.

Is that all?

So how do Shia's and Sunnis differ in Quranic Interpretation?
 

MyM

Well-Known Member
Okay I see. I understand where you coming from. So you depend on later scholars like Al-Dahabi? To me, Ibn Hajjar didn't have memory problems but was accused of it because people couldn't handle the truth he showed in forms of hadiths.

I believe Ibn Hajjar exposed a big problem in Sunni Methodology and only way to refute him really, was to accuse him of having bad memory and mixing everything up when there is no evidence of such.

He was indeed well versed in ahadith. A great scholar of ahadith and knew biographies of narrators n such and he removed the doubt and ambiguity and confusion from them. Many scholars of fiqh and ahadith spoke extremely high of him. He wrote many books as well.

That's the beauty of Islam, we can have everything go back to the Quran and Sunnah. One claim that any other religions cannot put their base to.
“(And) if you differ in anything amongst yourselves, refer it to Allah and His Messenger…”
al-Nisa’ 4:59
 
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