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Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by sciatica, Feb 11, 2020.

  1. sciatica

    sciatica Notable Member

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    slips into mod. mode conveniently avoiding the question
     
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    Polymath257 Think & Care
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    How is it avoiding the question? We do not talk about the moderation of other members, especially in public. So, if you think something is inappropriate, report it. Then the team will collectively decide if we agree with you. And, if we find something to be inappropriate or to break our rules, we will delete it. Because moderation is done by consensus, this may take more time than you might want.

    Either way, if something seems to be against our rules, report it.
     
  3. sciatica

    sciatica Notable Member

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    ive already complained about a thread title called "Beautiful Violence" and was treated with patronising contempt.
     
  4. Tiberius

    Tiberius Well-Known Member

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    What units is it measured in?
     
  5. WhyIsThatSo

    WhyIsThatSo Well-Known Member

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    "knowledge"
     
  6. Mock Turtle

    Mock Turtle Hey God, what went wrong?
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    Just think of it as karma - even if you are mistaken.
     
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    Did he email you or text?
     
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    oldbadger Skanky Old Mongrel!

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    Ah......... you forgot to come back to me. :)

    Out of interest I asked you what church or Creeds you belong to. For me this is important because some Christian Churches are driven by love and understanding, based upon the first rules of Jesus. But some others are monstrous in their perceptions of what a Godly Christian World would be.

    Could you tell uis, please? I'm a Deist. :)
     
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    oldbadger Skanky Old Mongrel!

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    I think you've gopt that wrong, sciatica.

    You want to check out the extreme Christian forums, you know, the ones where a good % of Christian members support the death penalty for gays, or flogging for pre-marital sex......... et al.

    Now, if you should find such sites and then tell their membership that their ideas about Christianity look very much like Sharia Law, and their corporal and capital punishments very like Shia Islam's, you would be called a retard, or Satan's spawn, or bound for hellfire, etc,

    You need to stay on RF, sciatica, where all people have a voice, all can be heard, all are treated equally. This place is a haven for all, I have come to know.

    Again......... which Church do you belong to?
    I'm beginning to wonder about that, you know.
     
  10. Tiberius

    Tiberius Well-Known Member

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    How many knowledges are in a standard thought?

    How do you define how much thought energy is in a single knowledge?
     
  11. WhyIsThatSo

    WhyIsThatSo Well-Known Member

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    How "much" knowledge in a standard thought is directly proportional to the "cause" of the "effect".....and
    the ratio of knowledge to thought determines the amount of thought energy, and is reflected BY the cause and effect.
     
  12. Tiberius

    Tiberius Well-Known Member

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    Are you unable to answer my question?
     
  13. WhyIsThatSo

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    Are you unable to "see" the answer ?
     
  14. Tiberius

    Tiberius Well-Known Member

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    You didn't provide any kind of meaningful answer. Just a bunch of buzzwords.

    You can't even tell me how we can measure knowledge. I can tell you how we measure light, electrical flow, electrical resistance, temperature, heat, but you can't even give me the basics on how we measure this knowledge energy you claim.
     
  15. halbhh

    halbhh The wonder and awe of "all things".

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    Well....ask yourself: should we then hate a putative 'false morality' guessed to come from the American Constitution when among 320 million Americans, some do wrong things egregiously and even claim they do it for America?

    No, it's really the good and bad actions of individuals that we either like or dislike.

    We would never conclude there is something wrong in the American Constitution because some Americans are notable bad actors, of the 320 million.

    But, I do think it is reasonable to hold "Christians" up to higher standards actually, so I don't object to pointing out when some trying to claim that banner are clearly not living up to that constitution, the one laid out by the Christ.

    The 'false morality' is individual, not in the precept of "Love your neighbor as yourself", which is a pretty universal idea most of humanity would agree is good (but you can test the proposition actually!)

    Myself, I don't believe in propositions (ideas about how to live life) until I test them and they prove to work better than other ways.

    Just my own view: "Love your neighbor as yourself" is something I now recognize as a true (best among competing ways) good because I tested it extensively vs other common ways to live (such as 'love a few and ignore most everyone else except to be distantly polite', and also the alternative: 'drink and be merry and everyone is a shallow fun friend' (which of course isn't quite the same as 'love'!); so I did testing against other competing ideas repeatedly in various places and over 20 years, and found which is best in terms of greater enjoyment and flourishing and energy, etc.).
     
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  16. WhyIsThatSo

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    And this from someone who says they can measure "heat", which is NOT possible.
     
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    I'm aware of what science thinks (falsely). "Heat" and "cold" are relative "sensations" (feelings)......in other words "illusions".
    What CAN be measured is "temperature"... and even that has limitations.
    So tell me then, at what degree of temperature does it become "warm" and ceases to be "cool"...….or at what precise immeasurable infinite degree of temperature does it cease to be "cold" and begin to be "hot" ???
     
  20. Tiberius

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    Please explain why you think science is wrong. Can you demonstrate objectively some flaw that it has when it comes to temperature?

    And what limitations do you think there are when it comes to measuring temperature?

    And why do you think that subjective terms like cool and warm need to have specifically defined limits? Shall I say physical size is meaningless because science can't say when something stops being small and becomes large?

    Your lack of scientific literacy seems to be limiting you.
     
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