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If we evolved....
- Thread starter starlite
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1) We didn't evolve from monkeys. We evolved from a common ancestor that is more closely related to apes, not monkeys.
2) There's no reason to use an ape valve replacement when a pig valve does the job just fine. Logistically, pigs are cultivated as a matter of course for their meat; apes are not.
2) There's no reason to use an ape valve replacement when a pig valve does the job just fine. Logistically, pigs are cultivated as a matter of course for their meat; apes are not.
starlite
Texasgirl
Excuse me...to be more politically correct...apes. My thought is...why are the pig valves compatible if as some believe...we evolved from apes. What would our connection be with pigs? Just saying....
mycorrhiza
Well-Known Member
We all share a common ancestor. The bodies of pigs probably work similar enough to ours for it to be possible. It's the same reason why it's possible to use animals to test the effect of medicine on humans.
It's not about being politically correct, but about being taxonomically correct. We are apes, but we aren't monkeys. We're quite closely related to monkeys though.
Pigs are similar enuf to humans in many ways. When I designed orthopedic surgical tools, we'd experiment with pig bonesIf we evolved from monkeys....why is a pig valve used in a mitral valve replacement?
cuz of the similarity. In this way, they are one of the most important animals. And the icing on the cake is bacon!
But if we go back far enuf in time, we will find a common ancestor for both man & pig.
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If we evolved from monkeys....why is a pig valve used in a mitral valve replacement?
Just out of curiosity, which three books on biology influenced you the most?
Have you seen the price of chimp valves lately?
You can get a whole pork heart at your local butcher's for a few bucks.Our connection with pigs? You can probably google a phylogenetic tree.
Hey, where did you get that picture of my twin brother?Pigs are similar enuf to humans in many ways. When I designed orthopedic surgical tools, we'd experiment with pig bones
cuz of the similarity. In this way, they are one of the most important animals. And the icing on the cake is bacon!
But if we go back far enuf in time, we will find a common ancestor for both man & pig.
InformedIgnorance
Do you 'know' or believe?
There is a reason that many cannibalistic tribes referred to human meat as 'long pig', we are EXTREMELY similar in terms of structure and it is this structure which is important for valve replacement (even were the valve from another human there are rejection issues, managing factors which result in immune response are extremely important - but whether it is from a monkey or a pig, the degree of immune response treating the new valve as a foreign body would still be present... thus this wouldnt seem so much of a barrier when considering a source for replacement)
Mycroft
Ministry of Serendipity
Because we share 84% of our genes with pigs.
like i said we share 60% with insects.
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
Because sometimes dummies say stupid things.
Biologists believe that fungi are more closely related to animals than to plants (hey, I had nothing else to contribute 
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I would think a more pressing question is "If we evolved from monkeys....why are there still monkeys?"
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Really? Hmmm that's fasnicating. can you link me to a study? I have read some interesting stuff on co-evolution of fungus and plants.Biologists believe that fungi are more closely related to animals than to plants (hey, I had nothing else to contribute
Brb, looking...
Oh yeah, that pillar and paragon of knowledge, Wikipedia Fungus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Characteristics
I knew I read it somewhere.
Oh yeah, that pillar and paragon of knowledge, Wikipedia Fungus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Characteristics
I knew I read it somewhere.
BHSU_Student
Member
If we evolved from monkeys....why is a pig valve used in a mitral valve replacement?
And when you look at the physiological function and anatomical structure of the pig mitral valve, the difference is?
Price and politics, Student.
Killing a monkey or ape large enough to have a usable valve solely for that valve would cause a huge public brouhaha, with lawsuits, injunctions, &c.
And, as if the legal fees weren't prohibitive enough, where would you get a donor chimp? If found, how much would it cost?
As I said before. Pig valves are serviceable, if not ideal, readily available and cost almost nothing.
Killing a monkey or ape large enough to have a usable valve solely for that valve would cause a huge public brouhaha, with lawsuits, injunctions, &c.
And, as if the legal fees weren't prohibitive enough, where would you get a donor chimp? If found, how much would it cost?
As I said before. Pig valves are serviceable, if not ideal, readily available and cost almost nothing.