Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Better an orange clown than a bumbling creepy dementia ridden disaster at the helm.
Looks like a win win for today's modern America.
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If the Rich needs to pay their fair share in taxes, Biden needs a mirror then.
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Looks like a win win for today's modern America.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Wait a second. Both of those describe Trump. So yes, getting rid of Trump was a win win.
Sorry - same middle finger but the wrong hand - 8 and 3
but we can continue on the strawman if you like instead of the issue.
I admire Biden, well done to his talk to the UN, especially about the world stepping up and becoming united in their efforts towards peace and the health of the planet.
He is doing a great job in very difficult very anarchist based times.
The balance between the extreme rich and extreme poor needs to be addressed.
I for one will not throw the first stone, it appears many are thinking they are without sin and can throw the first stone, good luck with that.
Regards Tony
He is doing a great job in very difficult very anarchist based times.
The balance between the extreme rich and extreme poor needs to be addressed.
I for one will not throw the first stone, it appears many are thinking they are without sin and can throw the first stone, good luck with that.
Regards Tony
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I'm sure the women in Afghanistan appreciate everything Biden has done towards improving the life in their country.
America did a good thing that will enable the women of Afghanistan to initiate the movement towards lasting change.
Go on all those that fought for those rights.
I see it is dishonouring all those that made that sacrifice in degrading what they have achieved.
That a few angry men remain, is not the fault of those that served or of Americans that fight for global peace amongst all nations.
These hateful posts, directed at America's elected leader, help no one.
Regards Tony
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
You don't appear to understand what a strawman is. You cannot say that people do not pay taxes when they contribute to quite a few different taxes. You should have been more specific. It appears that you want to portray the poor as free loaders.
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Apparently you don't understand what a strawman is,... you just presented another one.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I guess karma will have to take its course to find out.
Yes, and it is a shame to humanity as a whole, that grown men still can not make their own good and virtue based informed decisions. It indicates that we have not and still do not listen to what God offers.
Regards Tony
QuestioningMind
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It's REALLY scary when they STILL worship the traitorous loser down in Florida... truly sad and pathetic.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Maybe you should explore the reason why they act that way.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Oh so wrong. You are now projecting. How did I ever use a strawman argument here? You are now in denial about your error.
Heyo
Veteran Member
Good point. I think we can all get behind that. Less and also different.
The US is spending more on wars and preparation for wars than the next 10 biggest spenders combined. A point of disagreement between Trump and the European countries was military spending. He insisted they spend 2% of their GDP. I think that is much too high but let's go with that number for now.
Do we agree that the US should cut spending on the military down to at least 2 % of GDP?
Get back to me when you have a real question.
If the current amount is 3.7% (If my information is correct) - and we reduce it to 2% - it is a reduction of 46%. - I am OK with it if we reduced every other category by the same amount. I think the US would go into shock - but the shock is coming whether we like it or not.
Our current debt is 28,000,000,000,000. What Is the U.S. National Debt Right Now — and Why Is It So High?
Our current interest is FOR THIS YEAR is 524,000,000,000. Government - Interest Expense on the Debt Outstanding
That is A LOT of medical insurance for all. Interest alone would pay for it. (If you are into insurance for all)
So..... yes, bring it all on.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Why? You made errors, I made them obvious. You may have had an agenda. You may have even hidden it from yourself.
Meanwhile you could not even identify the "strawman" that you claimed to exist. I asked you about that and you ran away. That supported my claim that there was none.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Debt can be a complex issue. And it is not all bad. What we need to do is to avoid excessive debt. It all relies upon the cost of money.
Let me explain. If housing prices are increasing by 15% a year but the cost of a loan is only 5% a year it makes more sense to continually get into more debt as long as one can make the payments. One's wealth will grow faster than one's debt does. I do believe that quite a few millionaires understand this concept. Once one starts investing in housing as a method of making money plowing more money back into it, often in the form of loans, only increases one's wealth.
So just claiming that "debt is bad" is naive. Due to the pandemic our debt increased too quickly. That could easily result in some strong inflation. Which many do not realize is actually a tax. It is a tax on wealth when it is just held as money and not goods and property.
I can understand how people freak out about debt, but if managed it is not a problem, it is an asset. If our government did not have the debt that it has our standard of living would actually be lower. I am far from being an expert so I have no idea what the ideal annual deficit would be. But we actually want a deficit for optimal growth.
QuestioningMind
Well-Known Member
I've been doing my research and I've come up with three possibilities.
1. They are so truly ignorant and uneducated that they actually believe everything that the Orange Clown says and truly believe that the election was stolen and that the My Pillow guy is a genius. They're also likely to be QAnon followers
2. After January they finally realized that their Great Leader was genuinely a psychotic moron who attempted to overthrow our nations legitimate election, but after 4 years of supporting the idiot their egos are too fragile to admit it, so now they try and down-play his traitorous activities or pretend like they didn't even happen.
3. They are among the Anti-American fascists who adore the Orange Clown because he helped legitimize their bigotry and hatred and are looking forward to eventually having their armed insurrection.