Was Jesus schizophrenic? He was talking to an invisible person....
Matthew 4:1-10.
A very unusual incident, to be sure!
Matthew 4:1-10.
A very unusual incident, to be sure!
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Looks as if somebody needs to write a book 'How to translate Szasz in to meaningful language'.No, you're completely missing his intent.
And the additional quote I added was also his. Not mine.
To put it bluntly, Tomas Szasz was probably the number one critic of psychology, and in particular spoke against the overuse of drugs and over diagnosis of schizophrenia.
He believed that what was important was how people lived with their 'illnesses' (a term he wasn't fond of) and would have agreed with the points you made in relation to the OP (I believe...I'm obviously guessing somewhat on that).
The quote in the OP is sometimes used out of context...as it has been here...as if he was suggesting people who heard God were crazy.
Which is rubbish.
What? He is pro-psychology....... he just thinks that his ideas about treatment are best.But piling on as if Szasz was pro-psychology,
It was another example of mis-interpretation, only yours, so we're 1-1 at present.As for conversations about masks, I'll happily revisit whatever you like, but that has absolutely bugger all to do with this thread.
Several religious traditions have "holy madmen"
Looks as if somebody needs to write a book 'How to translate Szasz in to meaningful language'.
And 'No', I don't give him much notice......... the first title of his that I see is 'The Myth of Mental Illness' which of course he does not mean........ he doesn't communicate straight, imo.
What? He is pro-psychology....... he just thinks that his ideas about treatment are best.
....and yoyu're telling me that I got him wrong..... sure..... anybody could get that guy wrong.
It was another example of mis-interpretation, only yours, so we're 1-1 at present.
Let's call it a draw.
In order to be diagnosed as having a mental illness, including schizophrenia, the symptoms must be causing dysfunction in your life.Thomas Szasz (a notable psychiatrist) famously said:
If you talk to God, you are praying; If God talks to you, you have schizophrenia...
Question: Are there any exceptions to this rule? Can you claim God talks to you without being considered a schizophrenic? If so, how?
I think it's a matter of how many people believe you, which determines how society labels you. I think the difference between being written off as a schizophrenic and being considered a prophet is simply a matter of numbers. Televangelist crooks say stuff like "God wants me to raise a million dollars" - if I said that I'd be considered psychotic so why not them? Maybe because it's so obvious that it's a lie and that they are clearly liars rather than psychotics?
Perhaps the purpose of being able to perform miracles is to let the masses know you are of God rather than a psychotic? Would people have paid attention to Jesus if he could not perform miracles? Miracles were a big part of his ministry and I don't think it could have worked out without them...
I'm interested in this issue as I have been diagnosed as having schizophrenia, although I don't believe the entity who communicates with me is God, although I did used to...