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Discussion in 'Interfaith Discussion' started by Conscious thoughts, Jul 20, 2021.

  1. metis

    metis aged ecumenical anthropologist

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    I was just playing devil's advocate as I don't know either, so what I do is to go with my "drift" that there's one God. Either way, I do tend to think Something's involved, and I call that Something "God".
     
  2. Valjean

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    If this "spiritual energy" cannot be seen or measured, why should anyone believe it exists?
    Unicorns and leprechauns can't be seen or measured, either. Is it reasonable to believe in them?
     
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    Do you understand what logic is? Show your work, please.
     
  4. Aupmanyav

    Aupmanyav Be your own guru

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    The most logical explanation in my view is that the idea of God was created by schizophrenics or/and people who benefited by professing this thought.
     
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  5. rational experiences

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    Direct from spirit meant gods form pre existed.

    Energy forms. Slight energy in a gas. Gas burning. Energy as energy in mass.

    Known consciously by human living with natural light as gods advice.

    Why mass is a part of sciences human equation about energy.

    A gas burning produces slight energy in exchange in a vacuum.

    We know eternal was given back its karma as the gases no longer remained O held in gods body as its journey. In space. Planet God earth.

    Filled in the spatial plane. By stones gases.

    Spirit eternal human parents came from spirit was changed by slight energy as water oxygen.

    Held life lived within a slight presence energy gas mass.

    We got hurt as science brought into our safe atmosphere mass energy equals equals equals anti against gods formed natural presence.

    The teaching no man is God.

    One teaching 100 per cent correct discussing how man contradicted the presence God and was punished for creating sin holes in earth.

    Sin X k. K his old constant science symbol.

    Father said his design is a frozen time shifting reaction. His idol cannot react. He has to control the secondary new beginning again via machine a reaction frozen in time.

    Why he says now I pretend I created the ion as it's destruction is held frozen in time by metal machine.

    Machine an enlarged from small part frozen held reaction design.

    Reaction from tiny particles to spatial pressure opened a giant reaction.

    Why he says machine is a part reaction by design frozen in time. His model.

    Machine fixed partway.

    Why he placated his machine was frozen in time. Design a feature of a reaction the new thesis. That he perused as an imaged reaction cooled imaged recorded time shifting.

    How he got into a design partially machine body to a reaction.

    Yet has to begin again.

    Why he believes in UFO ion accumulation thesis when out of space radiation is not earths reactions.

    Designs from God in heaven are a vision.

    And was proven wrong.

    Nuclear power plant first machine is not used nor designed to attack humans in atmospheric studies.

    To experiment means I don't know. Yet he says I will prove what I know is egotism.

    As machine by heaven gas images never attacked us.

    To want is a man's choice who chooses and applies choice is not in any thesis natural.

    When he says who cares who or what I hurt he meant what he said why he experiments.

    Conscious advice is first. He says machine by notification is safe. The same as anyones mind would. He knows reaction is dangerous

    So reaction in our heavens gases notified in his psyche first dangerous

    He ignores his destroyers advice. As he takes gods forms to destroy convert them

    Why he was proven against God or natural.

    Energy is natural and stated the sub background support. He takes it to zero removal in a reaction consuming control what was not consumed before.

    Is not holy. Is not constant. Energy is constant a reaction is destruction.

    Just another science con coercion about intent.
     
  6. Valjean

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    Unless it's clear someone's using the word differently, I assume it's energy as described by physics:
    Energy - Wikipedia
     
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    a answer to the question:

    Energy is motion or the potential for it. Energy is the motive force of the universe. Energy is universal , infinitive, never created or destroyed. And this energy is God. God is conscious spiritual energy/force.
    (This is my belief)

    A Theist believe this spiritual energy\force is concious. And atheists believe this energy is not concious

    I believe it is logical to believe in God. To believe in God is much more logical than to believe in unicorns. It is strange to compare the belief in God with the belief in unicorns or leprechaus
     
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    a answer to the questions:

    Energy is motion or the potential for it. Energy is the motive force of the universe. Energy is universal , infinitive, never created or destroyed. And this energy is God. God is conscious spiritual energy/force.
    (This is my belief)

    A Theist believe this spiritual energy/force is concious. And atheists believe this energy is not concious

    I believe it is logical to believe in God.
     
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    To believe in God is logical. This is why:

    Energy is motion or the potential for it. Energy is the motive force of the universe. Energy is universal , infinitive, never created or destroyed. And this energy is God. God is conscious spiritual energy/force.
    (This is my belief)

    A Theist believe this spiritual energy\force is concious. And atheists believe this energy is not concious
     
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    Unveiled Artist Shrugs. I tried.

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    Euphoria, vitality, and a profound sense of gratitude (or other like emotion). It's the cause of the "I get it" feeling when life starts making sense and you can feel it and your life changes because of it.

    It's not comparable to unicorns and leprechauns because unlike these spiritual energy is an experience, its something you feel, think, and a profound insight that changes your life. It's not an object, entity, being, or something or other.

    Many people throughout the ages experience it but most of history credits these experiences to religious figures but I don't believe one needs to be a guru or Mother Teressa to experience it.
     
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    Unveiled Artist Shrugs. I tried.

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    What does it mean for energy/force to be conscious?

    We can experience spiritual energy without it needing to be conscious of us or made into an entity to have some sort of connection. I'm sure there are many religions who don't see the energy as conscious. Some say they don't know this energy well enough to where they have other different energies to connect with life/energy/force. Existence of god (as an entity) is irrelevant.
     
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    To be conscious is to have awareness, to be aware of yourself and your surroundings. For example a human is conscious.

    A Theist believe this spiritual energy/force is concious.

    And atheists believe this energy is not concious
     
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    Here i have explained it better:

    Energy is motion or the potential for it. Energy is the motive force of the universe. Energy is universal , infinitive, never created or destroyed. And this energy is God. God is conscious spiritual energy/force.
    (This is my belief)
     
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    I live.
    I am born by two humans who had sex.

    They are not the heavens.
    They are not space.

    Heavens however filled in a spatial plane around earth. Spirit families as one of each form as a mass of various bodies. The God planets children in make believe land.

    I can think and so can you.

    Science says everything created is in space.

    Our heavens takes up a whole space.

    Are you thinker possessed by your thoughts?

    I would say yes you are.

    Pretend placed the whole of space as bodies in space within our heavens. Thinking our heavens owns all of space. As space. As it is void of empty space. By thinking.

    Philosophy is to tell stories knowing you don't own what you discuss.

    Greed elitism control trade civilization human group history all bullies.

    Family always two human parents. A story said the same circumstance for everyone is first. A fact of Human life.

    I always wondered at human egotism and witness it's self destruction via its ego. Everyday what is said. I can know find God and then corrupt convert it.

    Philosophy hence tried by thinking to establish what was wrong with human thought.

    Consciousness became a subject.

    Belief of I know everything the human problem.

    Mass is human sciences practice. O the planet body from which design takes from to believe in science as a human practice.

    Egotism is not science. What coercive words quote as ideas.

    So if you challenge the thinker where are their laws existing as the thinker?

    Only in and by design machine and what conditions it owns to force change natural.

    The bible O earth science thesis said man in science was the destroyer.
     
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    This explains what it is but not how it's conscious.

    For example, I believe we all have the spirit of life, energy, life force etc. I understand that. What I don't understand is how this living energy that has unique identities in all things and living is/are aware or has a mind.

    We can experience it depending on our practices but it being conscious, can you (and others?) explain?
     
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    Our human father's heavens memories. As first human not Adam a thesis.

    His physical life human body deceased.

    Gods O earth stone gas heavens now owns image recorded voice recorded. Of his life.

    A memory. Compared to our life was very spiritual.

    We are born babies. Own human adult indoctrination. Grow consciously by DNA into an adult. Like our human father. Yet not as spiritual by radiation causes.

    As basic a human advice for humans as humans.

    If a human says does consciousness exist if we all died out. Humans.

    Yes animal and nature consciousness exists which we know is basic.

    Is not scientific aware. We know by observation.

    We know. We are the higher awareness.

    We know we came from as the parent human in eternal form. As a spirit being a pre owned body.

    God in space O mass had taken the burning cosmic journey to become energy. Not humans.

    Science said O beginnings. Sacrificed form.

    God was once eternal also.

    How else would you know creation unless you came from the exact same place first the eternal yet were not radiating energy?

    By not being it to identify reasons.

    Why does science use water to cool energetic reactions?

    Why and how would an eternal self who became human understand? By being mainly wAter their owned human self. Bio life form highest percentage a spirit experience.

    What we never knew was what it was like to be burnt like God had been. You science Brother however taught us. As self combustion proves the human theist caused the karmic event direct to the human form.

    As human evidence is a human conscious theist caused it as direct human inheritance in cause and effect.

    The story a human brother was a satanist who never listened to his human father's spiritual advice is real.

    Why we know without claiming falsely an atom expresses human consciousness without being human. Just because you wish it did.

    Human want is forefront of every coercive human thought. If a human wanted an atom contact to persuade other humans a human body owned an atom is an excuse to attack the human.

    When the pre thought of want is I want first. The pre thought in science was never about natural remaining natural.

    Which proves you were not identifying natural.
     
  17. Aupmanyav

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    'Physical energy' (that is what I am talking about) is neither spiritual nor God. It reacts but that is very different from human consciousness.
     
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    But it is not reasonable to believe in something without evidence. There is no empirical evidence of god. Therefore, he's at the same epistemic level as unicorns.
    God does have popular support, and a lot of people 'feel him in their hearts', or 'hear him speak to them', But people have made claims like this for thousands of years, about all sorts of different beliefs.
    "Logical?" -- you're misusing the word.
    OK, so show your reasoning.
     
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    If I was logical as a human I would realise humans are one self human having a two of experience.

    Consciousness knowing myself.

    If science converts a base of one of anything and suddenly a human a man thinks he is a woman. Then we are proven changed. Consciously.

    If we lived by base one support of everything but mass is what science abstracts from. Using one of in theory then you prove consciousness never came from natural base one.

    Otherwise we would not have changed identity. By thought functions.

    Pretty basic human observation.

    Philosophy stories about creation are first. Then the destroyer belief machine forced conversions became a practice.

    Not needed.

    The self advice greedy production for trade was why invention became. Men chosen.

    To mass produce by control for ownership.

    Especially when nature supplied our foods. Animals share unlike greedy human liars.

    Father who is life recorded by God stone gases existing the heavens is who humans said was a talking God.

    Common sense says so.

    Gases don't talk. Recording however does.

    Hearing voice abstract is via brain chemical conditions.

    Father first was no scientist as spiritual man advice is first.

    Our brother became the new age scientist. Irradiated us so we forgot who we were.

    Reason as father mother adult yet deceased life was our actual human expressed memory advisor. We innocent babies depended on memory and their spiritual life bodies minds to teach us.

    Father states basic advice as questions to you Brother theist....how can two of each one species exist?

    The answer spirit form came out of the same one body where spirit variants of the exact same body already existed.

    How one form owned two presences equal. Communication a language proves that consciousness always existed. For separate being to be communicated to and from in one body.

    Ask a human how did you become so mind imbalanced by status a man belief over woman?

    Because you invented theories for science not consciousness and was thinking for a dead machine mass actually. Not alive or conscious.

    We are not machine transmitted components to equals a machines components as transmitters.

    Basic advice of occultist scientists you changed natural consciousness yourselves.

    Been possessed by irrational theories since.
     
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    God has a mind, but not a brain. God is not a human. Since God is spirit/energy the mind of God is everywhere.

    God can communicate with us or give us signs if he wants to. God is love, so all that is from God is loving and just. All that is not loving and just is from a demon or from our own ego
     
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