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If God exists, than why its God's responsibility to prove his existence ?
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FranklinMichaelV.3
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Depends on what creed you believe in. Many who do not believe in God do so because of lack of evidence, their cultural background, and many other factors. If these people are to be condemned to hell or some sort if punishment, then it would stand that a benevolent diety would simply make themselves obvious to stop that and not only that it would truly preserve the concept of free will.
If you don't believe in hell or the Like it doesn't matter.
Though there is more to it then that. The conflict between world religions would also be resolved. Not just the external conflicts but the internal ones started by doctrine. It would appear that a diety who does not reveal their existence does not care about the death of its creations by other creations who believe in the same thing but differ in doctrine.
If you don't believe in hell or the Like it doesn't matter.
Though there is more to it then that. The conflict between world religions would also be resolved. Not just the external conflicts but the internal ones started by doctrine. It would appear that a diety who does not reveal their existence does not care about the death of its creations by other creations who believe in the same thing but differ in doctrine.
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That depend on if god cares if we know him or not, and what that means. It also matters what other claims come with said god. Ie holy books etc
chinu
chinu
Friend,
My question is.. if God exists, than why its God's responsibility to prove his existence, rathar than.. why don't people believe in God's existence.
I hope you have readed my question properly.
FranklinMichaelV.3
Well-Known Member
Friend,
My question is.. if God exists, than why its God's responsibility to prove his existence, rathar than.. why don't people believe in God's existence.
I hope you have readed my question properly.
But those are linked. People do not believe because God has not made its presence obvious. And it becomes gods responsibility because there is. Supposed punishment for not believing in God. As such it is Gods responsibility because revealing its presence would result in far less suffering.
tumbleweed41
Resident Liberal Hippie
The key word is "if". "If" equates to uncertainty.Friend,
My question is.. if God exists, than why its God's responsibility to prove his existence, rathar than.. why don't people believe in God's existence.
I hope you have readed my question properly.
IF I can fly, why should I have to prove it to anyone for them to believe me? Why don't people simply believe me?
Because extraordinary clams require extraordinary evidence.
chinu
chinu
Why doesn't it depends on if one cares to know him or not ?
People can do anything for the sake of their fake religious buisness, But, can you please give me just one single example from any holy book where it is written that God cares people to know him ?
FranklinMichaelV.3
Well-Known Member
Why doesn't it depends on if one cares to know him or not ?
People can do anything for the sake of their fake religious buisness, But, can you please give me just one single example from any holy book where it is written that God cares people to know him ?
Pretty sure the bible says not to worship any God but him? So God does want people to know him. Unless you're using know as a synonym for understand. To which Paul mentions those who know/believe have the veil lifted from their eyes.
chinu
chinu
People can say anything for the sake of their false religious buisness, But have you ever realized any such punishement, or any reward that is given to you by God for believing, or not believing him ?
chinu
chinu
As already being said that people can do anything for the sake of their false religious buisness. Thus, am sure you are getting the wrong translation.
chinu
chinu
That because i beg you to teach me fly
FranklinMichaelV.3
Well-Known Member
As already being said that people can do anything for the sake of their false religious buisness. Thus, am sure you are getting the wrong translation.
You asked for a Holy Book Christians believe the bible to be holy now I know that you may believe they are wrong but they in turn would say the same for you.
Now you can call it false but it would appear that when two sides are saying the other is wrong over theology that the simplest answer is both sides are wrong.
tumbleweed41
Resident Liberal Hippie
Why should I?That because i beg you to teach me fly
I am the one who can fly. There is none other like me.
However, a friend of mine is writing on book about me, and how you can strive to be like me. And if you study and believe hard enough, perhaps one day you will have the courage to step of a cliff and test your faith.
I think that it might not be God's responsibility to prove his existence, but if the world's big religious texts are to be taken seriously (which they aren't IMO), then it is obvious that God wants to be worshipped and has a desire for humans to believe in him and follow his rules. And in light of that, it should be a very simple matter for the one who created space, time, the cosmos, the Earth and us, to just show that he is real.
And at least one should expect that he wouldn't work so hard to hide his tracks and mask his existence. Examples:
- DNA shows us to be related to other animals
- Fossils show the same
- Plate tectonics show continents slowly drifting apart
- Old fossils and current DNA show bands of species related where continents once were joined millions of years ago, and the timing in the fossil record conincides with the direction and speed of the continents and calculations on when they were joined together
- Light arrives from galaxies far away indicating a very old and large universe - was it planted 6,000 years ago as photons from fake galaxies heading in our direction?
- Everything in the universe, from the Earth's round shape to evolution of life, show absolutely no signs of divine interventions, but just objects following physical and chemical laws that do not change
If God created everything one would expect that he wouldn't meticulously make it appear that everything had arisen naturally.
It's not God's responsibility; it's YOURS. If you're going to make claims about God, then it's up to you to demonstrate his existence.
yoda89
On Xtended Vacation
Let's say I have a new car and decide to show it to my friend. When I point to an empty parking space and there was nothing there. He might ask "where is the car." I say "its right there". "I don't see it. Where is it?" he asks. "Its just there" I respond. "Well how do you know its there". "The salesman told me it was" I respond...
Simply put, before I get into the magical school bus I need to see it first.
Well, Obama exists, and he had to prove he isn't Muslim. So I guess it's the same for "God."
The Sum of Awe
Brought to you by the moment that spacetime began.
Because if there's a crowd of people who don't believe I exist, I'm the only one who can show the actuality of my existence - no pictures, no videos, nothing can prove it besides me.
And I think God just doesn't find it necessary that God exists, God just finds it necessary that we know God has a way.
And I think God just doesn't find it necessary that God exists, God just finds it necessary that we know God has a way.
johnhanks
Well-Known Member
This gets the whole question backwards. If god existed, why shouldn't its existence be as obvious to us as the earth and the stars? What reason would it have to hide itself?