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Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Fool, Mar 11, 2019.

  1. Disciple of Jesus

    Disciple of Jesus Master of the Magicians

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    Actually there are very good arguments to worship Jesus, so your argument doesn't really work, religious wise. You're getting personal religious interpretation, and such, mixed up with textual inference. Not the same thing, necessarily.

    The Lord, Jesus, is in Spirit, for example. You are 'worshipping in Spirit', there.
     
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    Yeah you've got a problem, here. 'There is one Lord, Jesus Christ.'


    'Our G- d , and Lord, Jesus Christ'.

    2 Corinthians 6:18

    One Lord, here called the almighty.

    Your ""interpretation "" doesn't correlate to Scripture.
     
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    Since there’s a big difference between the historic Jesus, of whom we see only glimpses in the gospels (with, I believe, the Q quotations), and the mythic Jesus as presented by all gospels, and assuming that we would meet the historic — and not mythic — Jesus, we’d probably be disappointed, disillusioned, and disenchanted.

    There is the possibility, however, that those who are accustomed to seeking Christ in every person may well have confirmation of everything they know to be true.
     
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    I'm calling the sons of God Lords.
     
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    i'm calling all sons of god, lords. why?

    Deuteronomy 10:17
    For the Lord your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward:

    jesus is not and will never be the father.

    all manifested things are a reflection of the tetragrammaton. there was no thing made that wasn't made of it. literally the manifested forms come from it, like playdoh characters are formed from playdoh.

    to those who believe in the trinity all manifested things have the omnipresent in them and are divine.
     
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    when one sees the divine in everything, they are less like to destroy the earth. they show respect and reverence.


    to show reverence to those things is to worship god in all its manifestations. to love all.
     
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    its not amazing to me that pauline christians follow paul to justify their idolatry. jesus is not the almighty. he told you the father was greater and you ignore that. he even told you that he could do nothing of his own; except what the father showed him.
     
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    This is a mixed up commentary.
     
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  10. Disciple of Jesus

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    Speaking if which, how does a 'pauline christian ' differ from a christian. It's your imagination. An illusion. Different Xians have different beliefs, and all use the Epistles.
     
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    I have no doubt that most Christians would not be impressed with Jesus. Their history demonstrates pretty accurately that they have repeated the religious mistakes of the Jews before them. (2 Timothy 4:3-4)
     
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    In other words you realized that your methodology was deriving a different deity, from the Tetragrammaton, and you revised it to something that doesn't follow your texts, according to your belief. So, you are really encountering a problem, and are now saying 'Lord doesn't mean Lord', and who knows what else.

    Should have just stuck with the original pagan idea, at least you can textually argue it.:)
     
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    Uh...that would make Jesus the 'father'.

    Jesus traditionally has the 'indwelling of God, ' which makes Him one with the father.

    Your indoctrination should have taught you that, you are really going off the rails.
     
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    Yeah, you're also calling the Tetragrammaton, 'Lord'
    2 Corinthians 6:18

    Jesus tells us directly, that David, calls Him, Jesus, Lord.

    Matthew 22:37
    Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind
    [KJV]
    Matthew 22:41
    While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them,
    [KJV]
    Matthew 22:42
    Saying, What think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, The Son of David.
    [KJV]
    Matthew 22:43
    He saith unto them, How doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying
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    Matthew 22:44
    The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool?
    [KJV]
    Matthew 22:45
    If David then call him Lord, how is he his son?
    [KJV]



    Concerning the 'Lord' title, the word used here, referring to Jesus, is the same word, [greek language, that is used for 'Lord thy God'.
     
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    it was the folks at antioch and followers of paul, who first used the term christian. jesus never told anyone to make a name for reference, or reverence other than reverencing the hallowed name of the father.
     
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    its well know that peter never went to rome. paul did. in acts 8, where we first meet paul, we also meet simon the sorcerer at the same time. many believe paul was simon the sorcerer. jesus told you to listen to james the just, not saul the trouble maker. two thirds of the NT is based on a disciple that didn't have but a short and single instance of direct experience with a supposed jesus. the twelve valid disciples spent 3.5 years with him, yet most christians follow jesus and ignore any other writings by his disciples.
     
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    what is old is new again and again. the names and faces change but the same old actions remain.
     
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    you didn't read the Deuteronomy verse. it says that the Lord has no regard to person, not even jesus is to be regarded and greater/lesser. pagan, or not, jesus isn't special. he had to play by the rules just like everyone.

    melchizedek was the priest of god most high, why do you not worship him? jesus was patterned/ordered after him; so why not reference Melchizedek who was not born of man or worman and was the son of god?


    3 Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.
     
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    jesus told you that the kingdom of god comes from wtihin everyone. jesus told you to pray Our father, malachi says we have one father. jesus said to call no one father, for we have one father from the Spirit. jesus told you to call no man father on earth.


    jesus never, ever claimed to be the father. he did claim to be the son of man, and a child of god, not the exclusive child but a child.
     
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    jesus is not the Lord god all mighty. you don't believe in the omnipresence of god? or you believe in the omnipresence of jesus? i know no man named jesus except the one claimed to have existed 2000 yrs ago and doesn't exist anymore.
     
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