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If all Arms factories are strictly regulated?

DawudTalut

Peace be upon you.
If all Arms factories in the world are strictly regulated? The peace in the world be in much better forms? Much of the unrest at various times in recent history seems to have strong links with Arms-sellings race? What is your opinion please?
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
Hello Dawud,
Sadly, very sadly, human beings, when it suits, are villains.
Who would regulate? Who would guard the guards?
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Isn't most of the ordnance on both sides of any conflict originally produced in government licensed and strictly regulated factories?
 
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esmith

Veteran Member
Well I can not speak for other countries; However, in the United States the answer is that manufactures sell military hardware to the Pentagon ( government). However Special Operations forces purchase their hardware from many sources including those manufactured outside the US.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
If you have the cash you can purchase almost any weapon. Given the number of groups, other than nations, that want weapons there will always be a source for them. There is an abundance of military hardware that is available through arms dealers who make a fortune selling weapons to anyone that want them. When there is a demand there will always be a source. You can not stop the manufacture of weapons until you stop the need for them. In other words change human nature, which will not happen in your or your children's children lifetime.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
There IS no need for most firearms, now that you mention it.

What should be regulated, however, is the acceptance and use of them. Only a tiny percentage of weapons are "born illegal".
 

ShivaFan

Satyameva Jayate
Premium Member
With the advent of the 3D "printer" technology all the parts of a military rifle, pistol, rocket launcher, etc., can be scanned in 3D and each part as an exact replica can then be pressed in very hard "plastic" but metal "printers" are already on the way.

Mexican gangs are already producing "plastic guns" fully functional from "garage factories", and while more prone to mishap for the gunner than metal they do work and now packs of gang members ride about on dirt bikes and shoot everybody up.

But even before this, in Afghanistan, metal replicas of British assault weapons were being molded and produced in garage factories and used by some Taliban.

Saying you want to stop "arms dealers" in 2014 when we are on the verge of anyone with a few thousand dollars can start mass producing fully functional "plastic" Colt 45s from their garage, and cartels with money can now have factories of weapons manufacture in industrial sheads, it is sort of like saying you want to stop the illegal reproduction of copy right music just as the age of personal computer devices is about to be part of day to day life of billions of people.

The technology is becoming so advanced, and so fast, there is no stopping it, soon tanks will be produced by drug cartels with no need to purchase from arms dealers - the "bad guys" will have their own computerized factories.

There is no such thing as "gun control" in this "new age". You need to stop the gangs, goons, terrorists, cartels who pull the trigger or set off the bomb or program the "drives itself" car or sends the drone as a weapon to kill you, your family or community. However there are more of them then ever, many already have their own armies and "military".

Got any ideas?

Om Namah Sivaya
 
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Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Well I can not speak for other countries; However, in the United States the answer is that manufactures sell military hardware to the Pentagon ( government). However Special Operations forces purchase their hardware from many sources including those manufactured outside the US.
But the US sells guns to almost everybody, often secretly, often to both sides of a conflict.
The US armed both sides in the Iran-iraq war. The US armed the mujahideen against the Soviets, which later morphed into al qaeda. Now it seems to be working through Saudi Arabia to arm ISIS.
Once they leave the factory, there's no telling where arms will end up.
 

Mycroft

Ministry of Serendipity
If all Arms factories in the world are strictly regulated? The peace in the world be in much better forms? Much of the unrest at various times in recent history seems to have strong links with Arms-sellings race? What is your opinion please?

Is it the Arms Factories that are the problem? Or the companies and people who control them?

Inside those arms factories are just men and women trying to earn a buck to feed their kids. If you go around with placards saying 'No more guns!' those workers can't resonate with that message.

The people who build guns and planes don't decide what's done with them. If the government asks them for ten new fighter jets they say 'what kind? How fast do you want it to go? etc' and start building them. They don't appropriate the decisions as to what is done with the hardware. So, really, it's the companies and people who control the flow of arms that need to be regulated.
 

yoda89

On Xtended Vacation
People will find ways to kill each other until some peace is achieved. Under any know system it is unobtainable. At least until we find a system that is driven by love.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Arms manufacturers need a steady market or they'll go out of business. As most of their products could be described as "durable goods," it's in their -- and the national economy's -- interest to promote their use.
 
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