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"I'd rather be uncertain and learn, than dead certain and wrong."

Discussion in 'Interfaith Discussion' started by randix, Jul 2, 2020.

  1. randix

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    "I'd rather be uncertain and learn, than dead certain and wrong."

    I suppose that's my religious philosophy.

    It seems to me that the more people think they know, the less they learn.

    It's good to examine and question one's beliefs periodically or regularly, in my opinion.
     
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  2. PureX

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    For me, personally, faith is not about believing that "X" is true. It's about hoping and trusting that "X" is true even though I cannot know it to be so. Faith is the tool I use to keep moving forward when my knowledge (what I believe to be true) comes up short.
     
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  3. crossfire

    crossfire Antinomian feminist heretic freak ☿
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  4. Hubert Farnsworth

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    People who are wrong aren't "certain" of anything. They might think they are, but only because they don't understand what certainty is.
     
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    Thief Rogue Theologian

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    nay....

    for each question answered....10 more questions
    for ten questions answered...10 more questions each one

    the more you learn
    all the more things you don't know

    you can't stop learning

    oh I suppose you could
    but then what?...….live in ignorance?
    just ignore the next opportunity to learn something?
     
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    My favorite:

    'I would rather have questions I can't answer than answers I can't question.' - Max Tegmark​
     
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  7. randix

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    As an atheist, do you think that people who are certain that a god exists--who believe that without a doubt--are wrong?
     
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    Most likely yes.
     
  9. Twilight Hue

    Twilight Hue The gentle embrace of twilight has become my guide

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    That's why I'm not too big on provisionally based religions.
     
  10. Nakosis

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    Learning assumes you'll gain certainty at some point? Or, what is the purpose of learning?

    If you rather be uncertain then stop learning? :confused:

    Or you'd rather be certain and right... Is it possible to be certain and right at the same time?
     
  11. sun rise

    sun rise "This is the Hour of God"
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    I find a balance necessary. If I never question, I can't learn. If I always question, I also can't learn because I'll question what I've learned and get nowhere because I won't accept new information under any circumstances.

    That might read a bit odd so here's an example. If I decide to meditate and never do because I question my decision and seek more evidence all the time before starting to meditate, I'll never meditate.

    If I rather walk the middle path I could say to myself that there's good evidence that meditation is a thing to do and try it with an open mind, I could make progress.
     
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  12. randix

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    Some degree of certainty or confidence, surely. :)

    I suppose that in the original post I was thinking about or referring to the tendency of some people to dislike uncertainty or to be fearful of what they don't know, and who attempt to compensate for that by convincing themselves that what they already believe (or what they believe they know) corresponds accurately to reality, rather than to contemplate the possibility that those views and beliefs might be incomplete or wrong.
     
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    I'm just considering from my POV. I don't know if I employee a lot of certainty in my choices. More a matter of doing what seems/feels best. Not even sure choice is involved. More a matter of letting myself be.

    I do stuff and then I do more stuff. It all seems to work out. Stopping for certainty of knowledge of being right seems to cause more problems than fix.
     
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  14. Jayhawker Soule

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  15. Windwalker

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    Think of certainty as an infinitely receding point. It's not the destination, which can never arrive except only in our ignorance, but the accumulation of knowledge along the way. In other words, the journey of uncertainty, is the destination.

    I'd rather be realistic about expectations of finding Answers with a capital A. If I start with that premise, I'll only end up with self-delusion of having arrived, when I've barely yet begun.

    Sure, if we realize our certainty is always at best, provisional. "Right" is largely a matter of perspective or vantage point, depending on the question asked.
     
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  16. Tony Bristow-Stagg

    Tony Bristow-Stagg Immersion in the Ocean of God's Word
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    I see certantity with God, is accepting that there is things we can not know, in the knowledge we know very little.

    Regards Tony
     
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    metis aged ecumenical anthropologist

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    I 100% agree.
     
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