ICE Feeds Muslim Detainees Pork

[Evangelicalhumanist]

I have received a communication from the Center for Freethought Equality (to which I belong) -- I haven't yet checked its veracity, but I believe it is probably accurate.

"An ICE detention facility in Miami is offering Muslim detainees a choice: eat spoiled food or eat fresh pork.

This disgusting violation of the free exercise clause is part of a larger pattern of behavior: the American Constitution Society reports that Muslim, Catholic, and Hindu internees have also been denied the right to worship -- and have had requests for beads, prayer rugs, and religious texts flatly refused.

Reportedly, when one Somali immigrant asked why their First Amendment rights were being denied, an official responded: “Boy, you’re in Glades County.” The immigrant’s response: “But isn’t Glades County in America?”

Congressional Freethought Caucus co-chair Jared Huffman has joined 28 other lawmakers in penning a letter to the Department of Homeland Security, demanding an investigation into this unconstitutional abuse."

I believe this to be a serious issue, and totally unconcionable, even though I am an atheist. And my understanding is that most atheists think like I do about this.

Your thoughts?

 

[ADigitalArtist]

Cruelty is the point.

 

[A Vestigial Mote]

I find this completely unconscionable as well, because it shows a willful attempt to coerce people into compromising the principles they have adopted for themselves. I don't care whether or not their spirituality is reality-based, the state of their mind IS reality-based, and forcing them to compromise themselves could lead to psychological issues, and in turn, physical effects on their health and well-being.

I've more recently been seeing reports across various news outlets that ICE has imposed hysterectomies on some detainees as well - or, at least, that the rates at which these procedures are occurring amidst other overall medical neglect is suspiciously high. A whistle-blower, former ICE worker is coming forward with this, though I admit that I do not know the veracity with which it has been verified.

 

[stvdv]

I have received a communication from the Center for Freethought Equality (to which I belong) -- I haven't yet checked its veracity, but I believe it is probably accurate.

"An ICE detention facility in Miami is offering Muslim detainees a choice: eat spoiled food or eat fresh pork.

This disgusting violation of the free exercise clause is part of a larger pattern of behavior: the American Constitution Society reports that Muslim, Catholic, and Hindu internees have also been denied the right to worship -- and have had requests for beads, prayer rugs, and religious texts flatly refused.

I was in a Baptist Church, and they had a project in Indonesia where they gave the Muslims a pig. This was their success evangelizing story

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Reportedly, when one Somali immigrant asked why their First Amendment rights were being denied, an official responded: “Boy, you’re in Glades County.”

I would've fired or reprimanded that employee just for that. "Boy" also has racist connotations.

 

[Fool]

I have received a communication from the Center for Freethought Equality (to which I belong) -- I haven't yet checked its veracity, but I believe it is probably accurate.

"An ICE detention facility in Miami is offering Muslim detainees a choice: eat spoiled food or eat fresh pork.

This disgusting violation of the free exercise clause is part of a larger pattern of behavior: the American Constitution Society reports that Muslim, Catholic, and Hindu internees have also been denied the right to worship -- and have had requests for beads, prayer rugs, and religious texts flatly refused.

Reportedly, when one Somali immigrant asked why their First Amendment rights were being denied, an official responded: “Boy, you’re in Glades County.” The immigrant’s response: “But isn’t Glades County in America?”

Congressional Freethought Caucus co-chair Jared Huffman has joined 28 other lawmakers in penning a letter to the Department of Homeland Security, demanding an investigation into this unconstitutional abuse."

I believe this to be a serious issue, and totally unconcionable, even though I am an atheist. And my understanding is that most atheists think like I do about this.

Your thoughts?

Nurse questions medical care at immigration jail in Georgia

 

[SomeRandom]

Despicable.

 

[Stevicus]

I've more recently been seeing reports across various news outlets that ICE has imposed hysterectomies on some detainees as well - or, at least, that the rates at which these procedures are occurring amidst other overall medical neglect is suspiciously high. A whistle-blower, former ICE worker is coming forward with this, though I admit that I do not know the veracity with which it has been verified.

Whistleblower complaint alleges mass hysterectomies at ICE detention center

 

[Howard Is]

I was in a Baptist Church, and they had a project in Indonesia where they gave the Muslims a pig. This was their success evangelizing story

Thanks for the sour persimmons, cousin.

 

[stvdv]

Thanks for the sour persimmons, cousin.

Afterwards I went to the priest bad-mouthing Islam, and I made this very clear to him
1 year afterwards he had a talk about Islam, and not 1 bad word (and I am sensitive)

Hope this relieves the sour taste I gave you, a little bit

 

[exchemist]

I find this completely unconscionable as well, because it shows a willful attempt to coerce people into compromising the principles they have adopted for themselves. I don't care whether or not their spirituality is reality-based, the state of their mind IS reality-based, and forcing them to compromise themselves could lead to psychological issues, and in turn, physical effects on their health and well-being.

I've more recently been seeing reports across various news outlets that ICE has imposed hysterectomies on some detainees as well - or, at least, that the rates at which these procedures are occurring amidst other overall medical neglect is suspiciously high. A whistle-blower, former ICE worker is coming forward with this, though I admit that I do not know the veracity with which it has been verified.

Yes there is a thread on that here: Whistleblower complaint alleges mass hysterectomies at ICE detention center

 

[Twilight Hue]

I have received a communication from the Center for Freethought Equality (to which I belong) -- I haven't yet checked its veracity, but I believe it is probably accurate.

"An ICE detention facility in Miami is offering Muslim detainees a choice: eat spoiled food or eat fresh pork.

This disgusting violation of the free exercise clause is part of a larger pattern of behavior: the American Constitution Society reports that Muslim, Catholic, and Hindu internees have also been denied the right to worship -- and have had requests for beads, prayer rugs, and religious texts flatly refused.

Reportedly, when one Somali immigrant asked why their First Amendment rights were being denied, an official responded: “Boy, you’re in Glades County.” The immigrant’s response: “But isn’t Glades County in America?”

Congressional Freethought Caucus co-chair Jared Huffman has joined 28 other lawmakers in penning a letter to the Department of Homeland Security, demanding an investigation into this unconstitutional abuse."

I believe this to be a serious issue, and totally unconcionable, even though I am an atheist. And my understanding is that most atheists think like I do about this.

Your thoughts?

Fake news.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Fake news.

Is it? It's been reported in Forbes -- Muslim ICE Detainees Reportedly Fed Pork, Told By Chaplain: ‘It Is What It Is’

It's been reported on CNN -- Muslim ICE detainees forced to choose between expired meals or eating pork - CNNPolitics

And quite a few other places, as well.

 

[stvdv]

Fake news.

Is it? It's been reported in Forbes -- Muslim ICE Detainees Reportedly Fed Pork, Told By Chaplain: ‘It Is What It Is’

It's been reported on CNN -- Muslim ICE detainees forced to choose between expired meals or eating pork - CNNPolitics

And quite a few other places, as well.

I have actual first hand experience of people who resorted to this kind of action

SO, I would not be surprised if this story truly happened
BUT, knowing journalists nowadays, this time it could be "Fake News"

AND that would put the journalist in the spot of being at least as bad as what he tries to brainwash us with

 

[Twilight Hue]

I have actual first hand experience of people who resorted to this kind of action

SO, I would not be surprised if this story truly happened
BUT, knowing journalists nowadays, this time it could be "Fake News"

AND that would put the journalist in the spot of being at least as bad as what he tries to brainwash us with

These are just allegations as it stands right now.

Journalistic Integrity would highlight and reinforce that point. Instead, they choose to go the tabloid route by minuplating and subverting the story into what is essentially guilty until proven innocent. The more sensational and emotion triggering, the more lucrative profit and ratings.

The left never learns. Like the smirking MAGA kid tomfoolery.

 

[stvdv]

The more sensational and emotion triggering, the more lucrative profit and ratings.

IF nobody reads any sensational news anymore, but only solid trustworthy news, the journalists would quickly start producing truth

 

[coconut theology]

I have received a communication from the Center for Freethought Equality (to which I belong) -- I haven't yet checked its veracity, but I believe it is probably accurate.

"An ICE detention facility in Miami is offering Muslim detainees a choice: eat spoiled food or eat fresh pork.

This disgusting violation of the free exercise clause is part of a larger pattern of behavior: the American Constitution Society reports that Muslim, Catholic, and Hindu internees have also been denied the right to worship -- and have had requests for beads, prayer rugs, and religious texts flatly refused.

Reportedly, when one Somali immigrant asked why their First Amendment rights were being denied, an official responded: “Boy, you’re in Glades County.” The immigrant’s response: “But isn’t Glades County in America?”

Congressional Freethought Caucus co-chair Jared Huffman has joined 28 other lawmakers in penning a letter to the Department of Homeland Security, demanding an investigation into this unconstitutional abuse."

I believe this to be a serious issue, and totally unconcionable, even though I am an atheist. And my understanding is that most atheists think like I do about this.

Your thoughts?

According to Islamic Law (Sharia), a Muslim is allowed to eat ANYTHING in necessity, including 'pork'. It is 'excused' at that time.

PS. you will notice, that after all of the truth was deleted, it was never before that point actually refuted.

 

[coconut theology]

Meanwhile I'm sure you'd whine if they refused to give you a Bible or allow you to pray, making your religion a hypocritical religion for fools. Oh, I see you're a Seventh Day Adventist. You're not allowed to eat meat, but I presume that you'd be fine with being forced to eat meat, right?

The point is that they should've been served the correct food in the first place. Would they make a Jew eat pork? You think Jews should be forced to eat pork?

(edited, want to know why, ask sometime.)

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

You 'presumed' incorrectly. I "will not" eat such, knowing God's word. It will be the situation as Jesus in the wilderness, or Moses upon the Mountain, or Elijah in the Wilderness, or Israel in the Wilderness. God will provide something better, and if not, God be glorified, and then I shall receive a better resurrection.

Indeed, I am most certainly, by the grace of God, a Seventh-day Adventist.

The military knows what Islam teaches and do what they do on purpose.

They might attempt to make a Jew to eat 'pork', but most that are called 'Jews' today are nothing of the sort, but are rather Askenazic or Sephardic and follow not scripture, but Talmudic Rabbinism or Kabbalism.

Okay, so you're just a bigot talking big about what you think you'd do in a situation you've never been in. That's nice.

 

[coconut theology]

Fine, that absolves the Muslim detainees -- but it does NOT absolve ICE.

(edited, want to know why, ask sometime.)