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Discussion in 'Journals' started by Conscious thoughts, Apr 20, 2021.

  1. Conscious thoughts

    Conscious thoughts Veteran Member

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    A question that more and more often come back to me when i sitting and thinking about life is.

    Why are people so "obsessed" about telling other people that their belief in a God or a Buddha, or any other deity is wrong? Who is it that deside someone is wrong in their belief?
    It is non of my business to even ask this question, so this is why i put it in Journal section.

    I am sitting here thinking, Ok i believe in the sufi teaching, and Allah tells me it is right path for me to be on (through the teaching) But who the heck am i to tell a Christian, Jew, Baha`i , Buddhist, Hindu, Atheist or any other form of a belief in something or nothing, that they are wrong :confused: What do i do the last day of my life and i get to know all my life i been accusing others for being wrong, then it turn out I was the one who was wrong :confused: How imbarrasing isnt that gonna be :oops:

    Actually, i should know the answer to this questions (i dont know it) because i used to be one who accued others of being wrong in their religious belief. And to this day i dont understand why i did it.

    Should not each person be the best version of them self? No matter their belief in any religion, or no religion at all?

    I am sure i am not more or less right in my belief than any other person, but isnt it freedom to believe in any Deity or no deity at all that you want?
     
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  2. Heyo

    Heyo Well-Known Member

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    Go the zoo and observe the apes (as soon as that's possible again).
     
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    When people invest their ego-identity in a religion, conflicting beliefs can be threatening, especially if the infidels seem to be living happy, successful lives, despite their heresy.

    Unlike well evidenced, testable beliefs, faith is a house built on sand, easily toppled by any threat. It must be vigorously defended.
     
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    Quite possible here -- but the apes are required to wear masks.
     
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  5. Conscious thoughts

    Conscious thoughts Veteran Member

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    Not sure how that would answer the question to why people accuses others of wrong religious belief :confused: But i would go in to the forest to watch free animals when i can :)
     
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    Sorry for my humor but i just have to......

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    viole Metaphysical Naturalist
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    I think going to town is enough to see a lot of apes. Even though they were mask, at present, in some countries.

    Ciao

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    viole Metaphysical Naturalist
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    I am pretty sure that you will not be embarrassed at all. No matter what you believe.

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  9. Heyo

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    Free animals do it also when they live in groups or families but it's more obvious when our cousins do it. Members of the group, usually youngsters, get reprimanded for deviant behaviour. The group, as a whole, tries to establish coherency and conformity. We, at least many of us, still have that urge in our genes. It is a knee jerk reaction to scold "deviant" behaviour. "What? You want to buy a Toyota? We all drive Volvos, get with the program."
     
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    If i had accused others, and thought my belief was better then theirs, and it turn out i was wrong, i would be imbarrast of having accued others of being the wrong once
     
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    That surprises me honestly
     
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    Your mother never told you to dress a certain way or behave a certain way "because we all do it"?
     
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    No :) when i was a kid my mom bought the clothes she could afford, and it was never within fashion. She told me to always be good toward others.
     
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  14. SalixIncendium

    SalixIncendium Advaita Vedantin
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    I don’t think this is as prevalent in day-to-day life as it is here on this forum.

    But it is ego that compels one to tell another that their beliefs are wrong, and it is that same ego that makes that judgment.

    In my experience, those that allow the ego to manage them are the ones who are the “obsessed,” while those that have learned to manage the ego are content with leaving others to their beliefs.

    There are also those that are obsessed with those that tell others that their beliefs are wrong. ;)
     
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    viole Metaphysical Naturalist
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    Well, I am confident that all religious beliefs are equal. There is none better than the other. And for that reason, they deserve the same amount of respect.

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  16. Aupmanyav

    Aupmanyav Be your own guru

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    Beg to differ, Viole. They are not, if they go against science.
     
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    SalixIncendium Advaita Vedantin
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    What is the practical application for science in Paramartika? ;)
     
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    Do you know of a religious belief that does not go against science?

    Ciao

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  19. Aupmanyav

    Aupmanyav Be your own guru

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    Religions exist in Vyavaharika, in the perceived world not in absolute truth. There you just have Brahman. ;)
    Yeah, Advaita Hinduism (non-duality).
     
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    Or vigorously attacked?

    Don't see many houses bring toppled either tbh.
     
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