InChrist
Free4ever
Wouldn't anything I say about my thoughts and love for Jesus sound like preaching to you?
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Audie
Veteran Member
I dont know what you are capable of doing.
What you actually do tends to sound like chanting
from a script.
In the event, it appears to me that your "love of Jesus"
is you praising your own imagination, and
is ultimately meaningless, as said person is / was
not what you think.
InChrist
Free4ever
That is YOUR opinion, from my perspective Jesus is alive and present and the historical scriptures affirm this. But I don't think this thread is the place for any further conversation between you and me.
lostwanderingsoul
Well-Known Member
I am afraid that wanting to believe is not enough. God says that He calls those who He wants. Some people are not called. It is not your fault.
Audie
Veteran Member
A lot of people run when confronted with any
challenge to their dear beliefs.
"historical scriptures affirm" applies just as well
to the book of mormon and that thing the muslims
believe.
Audie
Veteran Member
You are right that wanting to belief is not enough, unless
the goal is self deception.
As for the rest though-
How do you "know" this? Are you just saying things?
InChrist
Free4ever
Not so, the book of Mormon not only contains numerous inaccuracies, such as "the Native Americans were of Jewish descent", but there is not a shred of archaeological evidence to support the stories of the supposed peoples, the Lamanites and Nephites, or their cities.The Mormon church has spent millions of dollars searching, but evidence has never been found and simply does not exist to support the events chronicled in the Book of Mormon, not even a coin. Whereas, archaeological evidence and museums of the world contain, literally tons of evidence which has been dug up; coins, metals, utensils, and more verifying that the Bible is historically accurate.
Audie
Veteran Member
Uhh... the bible talks about like Noah's ark?
And you say it is historically accurate?
Surely you are joking? Right...?
Of freakin' course there are coins etc. NONE
of it in the remotest way supports any supernatural
claims. You do know that, right?
No more than "North America" supports the BoM.
Which, btw, them mormons are quite adept at
answering your claims against them, as are the
Muslims.
You, though, will have zero luck with any
claim of historical accuracy for a book
with a key claim being such an obvious
and blatant falsehood.
We could mention the 6 day poof too, but
why bother.
lostwanderingsoul
Well-Known Member
John 6:44 says that no one can come to Jesus unless the Father calls him. So obviously the Father does not call everyone.
Salvador
RF's Swedenborgian
Hello! I made this account to ask you all a question and maybe get some opinions. Sorry if this is annoying to read i'm just rambling about my thoughts/questions
I'm fourteen and I was raised till the age of eight maybe nine to believe in god and go to church every Sunday but my family stopped going because we moved states.. my dad and mom have always been faithful but my siblings don't believe in god and I personally don't know if I do either but the issue is, is that I WANT to believe in him. I think the thought of dying and having nothing is pretty terrifying so I really hope at least something exists after death but I can't shake the feeling of doubt- I was always taught to believe in "Santa" and "the tooth fairy" and after I was told those were fake I just assumed god was too because he is almost the same as those made up stories..
I'm really not trying to be offensive to anyone but i'm genuinely distressed about it!! I'm bisexual and my best friend is Lesbian and I don't wan't god to hate me or her for that or anyone for that matter it's frustrating because I feel like even if I do want to believe I can never fully believeI do pray sometimes but it's always out of hopelessness and i'm not sure if anyone is even listening to me
It just sucks and I hope if there is a god he can forgive me for sometimes being angry at him or losing faith.
Hi Arian, welcome to RF.
There are indications the world is indeed a stage, and that stage is something like the Matrix.
My character is a biological machine who has found some truths, but there are many truths out there for me not to find.
A "machine" is any causal physical system, hence we are machines; thus, machines can be conscious. The question is: What type of machines could be conscious? Odds are robots passing the Turing Test Turing test - Wikipedia would be indistinguishable from us in their behavioral capacities --and could be conscious (i.e. feel), but we can never be certain. There's no way for any "conscious" being to know whether or not he is actually experiencing a virtual reality produced by an interface between his brain and a computer .
However, there are some possible indications we are living in a computer simulation....
1. A particle passing through a double-slit behaves as a wave causing an interference pattern when unobserved, but this same particle doesn't create an interference pattern when its path of travel can be determined by an observer. This collapse of the wave-function could be happening in order to save computational resources necessary for our simulated reality.
2. There is indeed a mark of intelligence left in our genetic code as evident by how the numeric and semantic message of 037 appears in our genetic code. Each codon relates to 3 other particular codons having the same particular type of initial nucleobase and sequential nucleobase subsequently then followed by a different ending nucleobase. Half of these 4 set of codon groups ( whole family codons ) each code for the same particular amino acid. The other half of those 4 set of codon groups ( split codons ) don't code for the same amino acid. So then, in the case of whole family codons, there are 37 amino acid peptide chain nucleons for each relevant nucleobase determinant of how a particular amino acid gets coded. Start codons express 0 at the beginning of 37 Hence, the meaningful numeric and semantic message of 037 gets unambiguously and factually conveyed to us descendants of our cosmic ancestor(s) with our genetic code invented by a superior intelligence beyond that of anybody presently bound to Earth.
Reference: The "Wow! signal" of the terrestrial genetic code. Vladimir l. shCherbak and Maxim A. Makukov. Icarus, May 2013,Redirectinghttps://www.scribd.com/document/35302916...netic-Code
This mark of intelligence left in our genetic coding is indicative of an intelligent designer, who may be responsible for the simulation of our reality.
3. Theoretical physicist Dr. S. James Gates Jr. has revealved that a certain string theory, super-symmetrical equations describing the nature and reality of our universe, contains embedded computer codes; these codes have digital data in the form of 0's and 1's identical to what makes web browsers function, and they're error-correct codes.
At least one of the following statements is very likely to be true:
1. The human species is very likely to go extinct before reaching a post-human stage.
2. Any post-human civilization is extremely unlikely to run a significant number of simulations of their evolutionary history.
3. We are almost certainly living in a computer simulation.
"Bostrom's argument rests on the premise that given sufficiently advanced technology, it is possible to represent the populated surface of the Earth without recourse to digital physics; that the qualia experienced by a simulated consciousness are comparable or equivalent to those of a naturally occurring human consciousness, and that one or more levels of simulation within simulations would be feasible given only a modest expenditure of computational resources in the real world."
ARE YOU LIVING IN A COMPUTER SIMULATION? BY NICK BOSTROM
Faculty of Philosophy, Oxford University
Published in Philosophical Quarterly (2003) Vol. 53, No. 211, pp. 243-255.
Are You Living in a Simulation
I took the red pill knowing there is no turning back. I didn't take the blue pill, because I didn't want the story to end, then waking up in bed and simply believing whatever I want to believe. I took the red pill for staying in Wonderland and getting shown how deep the rabbit-hole goes.
After taking the red pill, I watched the below video about possible evidence of us living in a simulated reality.
Audie
Veteran Member
Workman
UNIQUE
Rumour has misinterpreted this message! It does not mean it what it looks, Dont let rumour in your home.
Dell
Asteroid insurance?
Would you not assume losers equate to criminal minded people like drug addicts, perverts, thieves, brawlers, users... it's not hard to define.
Think of it as people who throw away a chance for a good quality life verses those who invest in a chance for good quality life.
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InChrist
Free4ever
I didn't say anything about Noah's ark or the supernatural claims of the Bible. Rather than focusing on my point concerning the archeological evidence which supports the Bible, verses no such evidence for the book of Mormon, you've chosen instead to simply divert and demean.
Remté
Active Member
No.
Audie
Veteran Member
Now now, dont get testy. I've neither "diverted"nor "demeaned",
however delightfully they alliterate.
I agreed that there is archaeological evidence that things
mentioned in the bible are accurate. That is hardly a diversion.
You of course, are demeaning the BoM and diverting from the Koran.
But never mind all of that.
You made the statement that "the bible is accurate".
IF by that you mean that bit and pieces here and there,
but none of the supernatural is accurate, great.
IF you mean the whole thing is accurate, that is simply
false. Surely as a good Christian you are not into deliberate
or negligent falsehoods.
So-
When you say "the bible is accurate" what do you mean?
As for the BoM and your incorrect statement that
it has no archaeological support? think again.
Five Compelling Archeological Evidences For the Book of Mormon
You of course also skipped past my mention of Islam,which
like the bible is littered with archaeological and other evidence
that it is, ah, "accurate".
lostwanderingsoul
Well-Known Member
Expected answer from someone with no religion. You obviously have not been called by God.
lostwanderingsoul
Well-Known Member
Please enlighten me and tell me what it means.
Audie
Veteran Member
Odd that you would not just agree with me.
"Coz the bible tells me so" is not the same as
"knowing".
There are an awful lot of different opinions about what
the bible means. Countless people who will in all
earnest sincerity find a different meaning than you.
And among them many, no doubt, who will say they
know, coz the bible tells them so. Do they?
Who is right? Just you?
Audie
Veteran Member
Please tell us if you are gifted with infallible bible reading.