1. Welcome to Religious Forums, a friendly forum to discuss all religions in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to the following site features:
    • Reply to discussions and create your own threads.
    • Our modern chat room. No add-ons or extensions required, just login and start chatting!
    • Access to private conversations with other members.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon!

Featured I want to be a jehovah's witness.But this is holding me back

Discussion in 'Religions Q&A' started by Frank Goad, May 5, 2021.

  1. Frank Goad

    Frank Goad Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2018
    Messages:
    1,358
    Ratings:
    +256
    Religion:
    occultism that has to do with christianity
    What is holding me back is my desire to pray to God for an out of body experiment.Or lucid dream.Do you know of any jehovah's witness magazines?Or websites that help with this?
     
    • Optimistic Optimistic x 1
  2. The Hammer

    The Hammer Well-Known Member
    Premium Member

    Joined:
    May 24, 2009
    Messages:
    5,319
    Ratings:
    +6,222
    Not JW, but here is an article about it.
    Lucid dreams: Their role, and how they register in the brain

    Edit: Also, A lucid dream researcher’s tips for controlling your dreams

    Edit 2: I'm a lucid dream researcher – here's how to train your brain to do it

    Edit 3: Worship God how you see fit, even if it means Lucid Dreaming is your prayer.
     
    #2 The Hammer, May 5, 2021
    Last edited: May 5, 2021
    • Informative Informative x 2
  3. Deeje

    Deeje Avid Bible Student
    Premium Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2009
    Messages:
    14,078
    Ratings:
    +7,908
    Religion:
    Christian JW
    The answer is no....and it has always been no....and will remain NO!

    If you want to engage in occult practices then you have a desire to worship the wrong God....you will never be one of Jehovah's Witnesses because those practices are forbidden in God's word.

    If that is holding you back...then please don't hold your breath.....God will never change to suit what you want....you have to change to suit what he wants......can we make this any plainer.....enough now.
     
    • Informative Informative x 3
    • Like Like x 1
    • Friendly Friendly x 1
  4. paarsurrey

    paarsurrey Veteran Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 2012
    Messages:
    18,702
    Ratings:
    +2,251
    Even Paul had to fake a vision so none of the Pauline-Christian denominations 32000+ of them, including Catholics, JWs and even LDS will, I understand. Right?
    Regards
     
    • Like Like x 1
  5. Hermit Philosopher

    Hermit Philosopher Selflessly here for you

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2010
    Messages:
    491
    Ratings:
    +369
    You say that you very much wish to be a JW, but do you know why that is exactly?

    Nothing against them btw. I just don’t understand your need to join them if you don’t see things as they do...

    Humbly
    Hermit
     
    • Like Like x 2
  6. RabbiO

    RabbiO הרב יונה בן זכריה

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2011
    Messages:
    2,367
    Ratings:
    +3,099
    Religion:
    Judaism
    @Hermit Philosopher -

    You may have noticed Deejee’s terse response to the OP. I guess you must have missed most of Frank’s threads and posts on the subject of the Jehovah’s Witnesses. You might want to take a look at them.
     
    • Like Like x 3
  7. Bree

    Bree Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2020
    Messages:
    101
    Ratings:
    +60
    Religion:
    Jehovahs Witness

    lucid dreams are not religious experiences. I've had a lucid dreams and i believe it is simply being slightly conscious at the time of your dream to the point where you can decide what happens in your dream. I've even woken up from a dream and thought, i want to go back so go back to sleep and im right back in the dream again.

    I had a look on our Watchtower online library and there are lots of articles about dreaming. See if you can find some articles here Search — Watchtower ONLINE LIBRARY (jw.org)

    Out of Body experiences are another thing alltogether and not advisable to try.
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Winner Winner x 1
  8. Thief

    Thief Rogue Theologian

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2009
    Messages:
    48,777
    Ratings:
    +4,890
    been there.....did that.....

    I am sooooo much better for the experience
    many years ago
    altogether spontaneous and natural

    once was enough

    otherwise you would do well to just sort through what you saw last night
    what goes on inside your head......is yours

    who else? ......should have a say
     
  9. Frank Goad

    Frank Goad Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2018
    Messages:
    1,358
    Ratings:
    +256
    Religion:
    occultism that has to do with christianity
    I want to lucid dream.But I want to pray to God to send me one just in case.So far all the jws I have talked to.Say praying to God for a lucid dream doesn't work.They say it might somehow get satan to do it by accident.:(
     
  10. Unveiled Artist

    Unveiled Artist Veteran Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2014
    Messages:
    33,418
    Ratings:
    +11,719
    Religion:
    Inner Child Healing
    If you do become JW, find people who understand where you come from and won't chastise your questions. Don't jump in until you've studied. That, and decern if these things are worth keeping. Lucid dreams aren't ocultish by the way. Dreams.

    I personally wouldn't suggest to be JW, but not everyone is the same. Be the difference.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  11. Frank Goad

    Frank Goad Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2018
    Messages:
    1,358
    Ratings:
    +256
    Religion:
    occultism that has to do with christianity
    How do you know lucid dreams without prayer to God to make them happen are not from satan?:confused:
     
  12. Saint Frankenstein

    Saint Frankenstein Veteran Member
    Premium Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2012
    Messages:
    33,665
    Ratings:
    +18,886
    Religion:
    Christian
    I think you need to move on from this JW stuff.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  13. Frank Goad

    Frank Goad Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2018
    Messages:
    1,358
    Ratings:
    +256
    Religion:
    occultism that has to do with christianity
    If you look a few posts up
    Bree thinks lucid dreams that aren't prayed to God before hand to happen is not from satan.And she is a jw.Confused.:confused:
     
  14. Frank Goad

    Frank Goad Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2018
    Messages:
    1,358
    Ratings:
    +256
    Religion:
    occultism that has to do with christianity
    I may have this all wrong.Lucid dreams might not be from satan.But I want to keep praying to God to make it happen just in case.:)
     
  15. Bree

    Bree Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2020
    Messages:
    101
    Ratings:
    +60
    Religion:
    Jehovahs Witness
    I dont think lucid dreams have anything to do with God or satan. Its just our subconscious mind at work.
     
    • Useful Useful x 1
  16. Bree

    Bree Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2020
    Messages:
    101
    Ratings:
    +60
    Religion:
    Jehovahs Witness
    I dont think 'lucid dreams' and 'out of body experiences' are the same things.

    Out of body experiences are surely something that comes from messing with your mind (as in the case of Yoga meditation) and letting something more sinister take over. This is occultish and should be avoided at all costs.

    But lucid dreaming is not. Its really just a mildly awake state during a dream. If some people put religious connotations to it, then they would be wrong. If religous people use it as a spiritual practice, then thats somewhere to draw the line. You cant force a lucid dream by incantation or anything like that because you have to already be alseep before a lucid dream could happen. So there really is nothing to a lucid dream except that you are regaining consiousness and coming out of a sleep.
     
  17. JustGeorge

    JustGeorge Well-Known Member
    Staff Member Premium Member

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2020
    Messages:
    2,574
    Ratings:
    +4,957
    Religion:
    Hindu
    I agree. I used to have them frequently, and they never had anything to do with God or the occult, nor were they anything I sought out. They just happened.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  18. Bree

    Bree Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2020
    Messages:
    101
    Ratings:
    +60
    Religion:
    Jehovahs Witness
    yes absolutely agree. i've had them just randomly...not thru trying to have them.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  19. JustGeorge

    JustGeorge Well-Known Member
    Staff Member Premium Member

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2020
    Messages:
    2,574
    Ratings:
    +4,957
    Religion:
    Hindu
    I used to dream of a school repetitively(the same school), and it got to a point that if I dreamt of the school, I knew it was a dream, and I could have control of whatever I wanted to do.

    I miss those dreams... the library there was amazing. Spent a lot of time there.

    Never did figure out why the pool was often out of order.
     
  20. Conscious thoughts

    Conscious thoughts Veteran Member

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2018
    Messages:
    16,229
    Ratings:
    +11,280
    Religion:
    Osmanli Nakshibedi Way, Sufism
    Just in case of?

    May i ask you two questions Frank?
    1: Why do you want to experience Lucid dreams? What do you expect to learn from it?
    2: When people tell you JW or other religions do no dabble with lucid dreams, why do you keep pushing for it?
     
Loading...