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Featured I think men are less committed to faith than women.

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Jonathan Bailey, Aug 20, 2019.

  1. Saint Frankenstein

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    They're not necessarily arrogant but certainly not meek, either. Rather, it was viewed as good to be confident in yourself and proud of your abilities and achievements.
     
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    In fact Frankenstein probably got that from that Beowulf movie remake, hehe. Beowulf says, the Crying Wood God! Chivalry is the model of the Knight, the model of Camelot's "C'est Moi", which I've noted Knightly figures celebrated in the Christian World from the Confederacy, to England, to Russia. It definitely is not standard or taken for granted, that no advantage is to be taken of the weak, fair combat, the surrender of the sword, why is all this Christian? Well it developed that way anyway. They do typically wish to Focus , extreme Focus, on the rescue of the princess in the tower and illicit love affairs and oh notice this stuff. What a nightmare for international Passport agents, French Knights coming to the Aid of the call of a British Kingdom for the Right before Might. Arthurian Legend quickly made the German Foreigner, Prince Albert, a favorite husband of Queen Victoria to the British People.
     
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    There is nothing toxic about classic male gods. If anything, modern attempts at reviving masculinity in the face of providing power to women is what has intoxicated any form of "classic" masculinity.
     
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    Actually, I wasn't thinking of Beowulf at all, although that does illustrate my point well.

    I also recall reading in one my books on Norse religion that there was a feisty female worshiper of the old gods who challenged Jesus to fight with Thor to see who would win (I suppose she would worship the winner). That gave me a chuckle. I admire her spirit.
     
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    Ya that is funny stuff Frankenstein. So you are studied in this? I sometimes wonder whether Nazis did more in Christianity or in Germanic? The proper word for the religion is Germanic, right, because it was common through out Germany and Scandinavia! Oh! That explains why they surrender so much, hilarious.
    Runic insignia of the Schutzstaffel - Wikipedia
    I hear a lot about the balancing act between the SS and the previous traditions of the Wehrmacht obviously.
    Wehrmacht - Wikipedia
     
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    I think the "bizarre moods" area of the female brain is highly undersized on the model.:D
     
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    I heard from Consumer Behavior Marketing that we generally think Female as Private and Religious rather than a Male Public and whats that then, non-religious? Then again, I think that is a really outdated model for Marketing decisions, that'd be weird.
     
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    I'll just answer this post and then move on from the subject as I don't want to derail the thread.

    National Socialism is kind of like a religion unto itself. It's definitely not Christian, although the Nazis tried to be pragmatic about it since Germany was mostly Christian. So sometimes they'd use Christian imagery to further their aims, at least at first. However, most of the leading Nazis, including Hitler, hated Christianity for its "meekness and flabbiness" (in Hitler's words). Many of them were also into Germanic paganism, especially Himmler. Hitler wasn't interested in paganism or occultism. He believed that science would eventually overtake religion in enough time.

    Anyway, the Nazis made use of pre-Christian Germanic symbolism in their aesthetic and some of them practiced it as a religion. However, they misused it and introduced things into it that were never a part of it originally, such as racism. Pre-Christian Germanic tribes were also more likely to fight against imperialism than to try to subjugate others under colonialism. They fought Roman imperialism, for example. The Northern tribes were freedom loving peoples. So Nazism is a perversion of that.

    Personally? I view Nazism as the dark, violent side of the Germanic psyche bursting into the world. It's very ugly.
     
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    Ya Germanic is definitely about manly strength promotion , and warriors practicing and continuing to practice in the afterlife because they were great warriors, like we were relating to this thread about women practicing Christian religion only. Interestingly that Buddhism seems more extreme this way, that it has a Large Majority of women that are in Buddhism, which is Also strange, I need to read more, when its like Buddhism talks down about women.
     
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    Hmmn. I've never experienced that in my church. I wonder what it's like? Even our ' General Conferences' are made up of several selected speakers, not just one.

    But then, we're weird. We expect everybody to get up and 'give a talk.' I've had to, and so has pretty much everybody else in the congregation. Our 'Bishop' seldom, if ever, speechifies. Of course, we don't pay him anything, so perhaps it's too much to ask for him to give a sermon AS WELL as everything else.

    It makes for...hmnn...we never know what to expect of a Sunday.
     
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    Exactly.
     
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    I disagree with that. Women want security and that they can get from church. But they seem to be less faithful/loyal to God and more easily reject what the Bible tells than men. It is often women who want to change the teachings, not men.

    “Female Clergy as Agents of Religious Change?
    This article focuses on female clergy as potential agents of change in the Church. I argue that the adoption of female clergy is one of the main factors that cause the Church to change its practices, policies and theological orientation…”

    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/279423541_Female_Clergy_as_Agents_of_Religious_Change
     
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    My eyes are both red and thor from allergies. Is that what you mean?
     
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    Thor is a protective storm deity and the red refers to the blood of his enemies he spills in battle.
     
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    My, but this thread is sickeningly "Mad Men."
     
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    It was a pun!
     
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    I know, my friend. I got it. I grimaced appropriately. It's OK. Not everybody appreciates a good pun. Or a bad one. Those who, like me, can never come up with one on time really appreciate them. Just thought you should know.
     
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    I know. I'm just cranky today.
     
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    I’m sorry to hear that! I hate when I’m cranky...

    But your post raises an interesting theological point about love and forgiveness. Me? I’d rather have a gentle God whose heart is vulnerable, and who is self-giving. Forgiveness can only come through humility.
     
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    Yes, but it is related to the culture and education.
     
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