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Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by MattersOfTheHeart, Jun 19, 2016.

  1. blue taylor

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    There are much older holy books than the Bible. Why choose the Bible? My guess is you grew up in a society that was basically Christian or Jewish. If you had been born and raised in another society, Hindu, Jain, Muslim, or Buddhist for example, I doubt if you would see the Bible in the same light. If you spent as much time reading about the factual history of the Bible instead of it's fictional core you might see the Bible for what it really is. I was the same way until I found out who wrote the Bible and why.
     
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    I promise you that there are in deeds others like you.
     
  3. The_Fisher_King

    The_Fisher_King Trying to bring myself ever closer to Allah
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    Who wrote the Bible and why?
     
  4. blue taylor

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    Human beings.
     
  5. The_Fisher_King

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    And why did they do so?
     
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    To gain power over others.
     
  7. The_Fisher_King

    The_Fisher_King Trying to bring myself ever closer to Allah
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    Can't argue with you there!
     
  8. Riverwolf

    Riverwolf Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
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    I can.

    You don't think that many, if not most, of the texts in the Bible were just people feeling inspired and wanting to create, just like any artist?
     
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    Since they were all written anonymously, how can anyone know? No one can. You can say "I believe" or "I'm sure" or "I think", but to say "I know" is simply not fact when it comes to the Bible being a work inspired by a god because no god has ever existed.
     
  10. The_Fisher_King

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    Correction: because you believe or you think that no god has ever existed. You can't know for sure yourself that no god has ever existed.
     
  11. The_Fisher_King

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    That may be true of at least some individual texts, but the compilation of texts that is the Bible was (in my opinion) put together to gain power over others.
     
  12. Riverwolf

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    I never said anything about being "inspired by God." Just "inspired." The same way modern artists are inspired to create.

    Of course, you're right. We ultimately can't know because the authors are anonymous. And we likewise cannot know if they were written with the express purpose of controlling people, either.

    Certainly that was one of the motivations for the compilation, and the establishment of God as the ultimate author.. Who knows whether it was conscious or not, but it would certainly have been there.
     
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    No god has ever been proven to exist in any shape or form.
     
  14. The_Fisher_King

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    As the saying goes, absence of evidence is not (necessarily) evidence of absence.
     
  15. Riverwolf

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    Yes, this is true.

    However, when it comes to logical inquiry, the default assumption best taken in the absence of anything is 0 (false/off/innocent) unless demonstrated to be 1 (true/on/guilty).

    Pretty sure Sun, Earth, Sea, and Moon exist. ;)
     
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    Saint Frankenstein Caritas Christi Urget Nos
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    The idea that organized religion was created in large part to "control the masses" is a pretty widely held belief.

    I'm not saying that makes it true or that you have to accept it, but I don't think it warrants a facepalm. Don't you think controlling people is one very real aspect of religion?
     
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  18. Saint Frankenstein

    Saint Frankenstein Caritas Christi Urget Nos
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    Not really, no. I also don't think "organized religion" was specifically "created". It just developed.
     
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    Developed from what? Religion would not exist if it were not "revealed" by a person. That's why they are called "revealed religions". All of a sudden a con man tells a story about a super human being called "god", who told him about this, that and the other thing, and before you know it lots of gullible people are singing the praises of this great being who did not exist before this "highly enlightened" con man was chosen by the "god" he created in a story. And of course this person after this, claimed to be a son of god, a prophet of god, a man of god, chosen by god or even a god on earth. It's the same story over and over. Just a story, nothing else.
     
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    Saint Frankenstein Caritas Christi Urget Nos
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