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Featured I really love Jesus

Discussion in 'Religions Q&A' started by Meandflower, Jan 19, 2021.

  1. Meandflower

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    I love Jesus with all my heart. I grew up with Christianity, so maybe that's why he means so much to me. But I think it's also because I'm very sure he's a very holy soul and has taught us a lot of important things about kindness, forgiveness and other useful wisdom.

    What does your religion think of Jesus?
     
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  2. Unveiled Artist

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    I wouldn't say my religion since I don't follow anything that would be considered such, but in my personal view I only take jesus by what's written about him. I don't understand how any person can love a stranger they have never met and got to know. God I understand a bit since spirit or fulfillment can be experienced regardless how you attribute it and time period. Jesus was an actually flesh and blood person (can't confirm existence or not), so I'd assume intimate connection would be done not just in spirit but in flesh as well.

    If I studied theology, I'd have better insight but he's not someone I've met and can connect to by blood that would make him a focus of praise and prayer.
     
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  3. Meandflower

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    I feel I know Jesus in spirit. A loving kind spirit

    Do you believe Jesus was a holy soul or just a ordinary man?
     
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    The Baha'i Faith has extremely high regard for Jesus viewing Him as one of just a small number Manifestations of God. Shoghi Effendi, the leader of the Baha'i Faith from 1921 to 1957 has written:

    As to the position of Christianity, let it be stated without any hesitation or equivocation that its divine origin is unconditionally acknowledged, that the Sonship and Divinity of Jesus Christ are fearlessly asserted, that the divine inspiration of the Gospel is fully recognized, that the reality of the mystery of the Immaculacy of the Virgin Mary is confessed, and the primacy of Peter, the Prince of the Apostles, is upheld and defended. The Founder of the Christian Faith is designated by Bahá’u’lláh as the “Spirit of God,” is proclaimed as the One Who “appeared out of the breath of the Holy Ghost,” and is even extolled as the “Essence of the Spirit.” His mother is described as “that veiled and immortal, that most beauteous, countenance,” and the station of her Son eulogized as a “station which hath been exalted above the imaginings of all that dwell on earth,” whilst Peter is recognized as one whom God has caused “the mysteries of wisdom and of utterance to flow out of his mouth.” “Know thou,” Bahá’u’lláh has moreover testified, “that when the Son of Man yielded up His breath to God, the whole creation wept with a great weeping. By sacrificing Himself, however, a fresh capacity was infused into all created things. Its evidences, as witnessed in all the peoples of the earth, are now manifest before thee. The deepest wisdom which the sages have uttered, the profoundest learning which any mind hath unfolded, the arts which the ablest hands have produced, the influence exerted by the most potent of rulers, are but manifestations of the quickening power released by His transcendent, His all-pervasive and resplendent Spirit. We testify that when He came into the world, He shed the splendor of His glory upon all created things. Through Him the leper recovered from the leprosy of perversity and ignorance. Through Him the unchaste and wayward were healed. Through His power, born of Almighty God, the eyes of the blind were opened and the soul of the sinner sanctified…. He it is Who purified the world. Blessed is the man who, with a face beaming with light, hath turned towards Him.”

    Bahá'í Reference Library - The Promised Day Is Come, Pages 108-113
     
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  5. sun rise

    sun rise "This is the Hour of God"
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    Jesus is the essence of kindness and love. Who seeks to unite his personal being with that message is following Truth itself.

    Secondarily, the one eternal Christ/Avatar takes various bodies in various lands in various times to renew the message and lead humanity onward. The historical Jesus is an instantiation of that eternal Truth.
     
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    Not a lot.

    In fact it tries not to.
     
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    “I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
    -- Mahatma Gandhi
     
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    I see him (what's written about him) as an ordinary man. I do believe energies/spirits but not of those I'm not related to by blood line and in person.

    I wasn't raised christian or with any supernatural context so spirituality is still somewhat new to me. Jesus, though, doesn't catch my attention. Maybe indifferent would be a good word for it.
     
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    Since I don't follow a religion I'll speak for myself only.

    I think Jesus was a good guy, but not a perfect guy.
     
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    Do you believe Jesus is a holy soul? A soul God sent to earth to teach us about kindness?
     
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    It depends who you ask. Some consider him one of the avatars. Others, myself included, consider him a guru. I'm sure there are other opinions on the matter, but these are the most prevalent I've seen.
     
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    Only as holy as other good souls.

    For me the process of learning and teaching about kindness is the same as the human process of learning and teaching about any other subject.

    We learn from those before us, and then some of us will have insights to build upon our prior learning, and others will distinguish themselves as great teachers.

    Thus to me it makes as much sense to say God sent Jesus to teach kindness as it does to say God sent Einstein to teach physics.
     
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    My Master told us:
    * First Jesus declared "I am a Messenger of God"
    * Next Jesus declared "I am the Son of God"
    * Finally Jesus declared "I and my Father are One"
     
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    You seem a very sincere person.
    I know a few persons who felt the same as you do, and at some time has repeatedly said the words in your title.
    Many of these persons now say, they never really knew, or loved Jesus, but the emotional feeling they had was shared in their association.

    Sadly, some say these words, and live contrary to them.
    This is true of many millions... not that they are not sincere. They just lack one vital ingredient. Romans 10:2 ; 1 Timothy 2:4
     
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    He might exist but he's no concern for me. Seems nice tho.
     
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    I don't claim I Love God, because IMO that would mean that I never do something I know I should not do (I just ate ice cream; better I don't, as body is temple of God, so I better eat wholesome food always, IF I love God, I also love myself, so I ONLY do what is best for body)

    Do you think there is anyone, who can live like this? Could you, or do you live like this?
     
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    Jesus is a toxin to life, a misguided nut who would have us squandering love on those undeserving of it, have us vowing our lives to poverty, and worshipping a savagely cruel and heinously violent god. He's such a clown he thinks proper morality can begin with what "I" want, and that our existence and being as humans is so damnable that even thoughts we don't act on or speak on are considered sin.
     
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    You knew him personally? (no sarcasm intended)

    This is just an observation but the same emphasis of emotion as people who believe in christ just the opposite end of the coin. They save they know he loves and you say he is misguided.

    How do you guys know this-personally?

    Edit... because I never got that strong emotion and opinion of him from reading a book about him but never written by him.
     
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    I'm going by what the Bible says. Like the so-called "Golden Rule," which is gilded faeces as it leaves open many potential loopholes and problems because what one person wants will not always be what another one wants.
     
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    I love Jesus with all my heart. I did not grow up with Christianity, so that's not why he means so much to me.
    I have a heartfelt connection because of what Baha'u'llah and Abdu'l-Baha wrote about Jesus and through reading what Jesus and Paul said in the New Testament, and through listening to what Christians say about Jesus on Christian radio.
    I see that Adrian answered that quite well. Thanks Adrian. :)

    But I want to add one thing regarding the proof that Jesus was truly a Manifestation of God.

    “But in the day of the Manifestation the people with insight see that all the conditions of the Manifestation are miracles, for They are superior to all others, and this alone is an absolute miracle. Recollect that Christ, solitary and alone, without a helper or protector, without armies and legions, and under the greatest oppression, uplifted the standard of God before all the people of the world, and withstood them, and finally conquered all, although outwardly He was crucified. Now this is a veritable miracle which can never be denied. There is no need of any other proof of the truth of Christ…” Some Answered Questions, p. 101
     
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