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I prayed to all the gods, none have answered back...

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Okay. So I am chronically ill. I was raised in a Christian family. My mum kept telling me Jesus would heal me. But after time I realised my belief in him and prayers were doing nothing. Even when I tried sincerely to hold onto the faith. So I became atheist. But every now and again I still get the urge to pray. So I pray to other deities from other religions since Jesus didn't respond. Well, mostly Hindu deities since I like Hinduism (Durga/Shiva). But still nothing.

Maybe I should try praying to as many different gods as possible from as many different pantheons and see if any of them decide to respond and help me? Maybe I should at least try it. I don't think gods are really out there, but maybe if they are one will actually show themselves to me. Why should I believe in a being that supposedly has the power to manifest itself but doesn't? Are they not real? Do they just not care? Maybe they are not really powerful afterall?

have you considered learning something from this situation? that by changing your inward and outward point of view, it may alleviate some of your distress, or dis-ease?

chronic stress is known to increase morbidity.

praying is asking for something. a lot of folks forget the listening to the still small voice part. communication with the divine is a two way process..

i encourage everyone to try it, meditation, self-reflection, introspection is a wonderful and calming experience.


i started 20+ yrs ago using a album called enigma. It helped calm my distress.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Sorry but I find that imaginative. I don't know that many people, and I know 4 who were atheists that became Christians. One of them was a member here.

Also, where has @Revoltingest been for the last few days? I have this weird feeling that he's decided to leave us so he can pastor a church.
Machinery expedition.
Wirey is not with me.
Busy busy busy.

Still an atheist.
 

ronandcarol

Member
Premium Member
I prayed to all the gods, none have answered back...
I think that the more you think of praying to other gods the more you are making the One True God a little angry. He does not want to share anyone with other gods. If you want satisfaction from another god you probably won't get anything from our Christian God. The Apostle Paul could not get his ailment cured when he ask God to remove the thorn in his side. And he was a powerful Apostle! You need to have rock solid faith and stick with it and not waiver. God's urgency is far different from ours. Especially if we are wavering between 3 or 4 different gods. Go to the God of the Bible and repent of you wavering and stick with the Only True God that can fix your ills.
ronandcarol
 
Okay. So I am chronically ill. I was raised in a Christian family. My mum kept telling me Jesus would heal me. But after time I realised my belief in him and prayers were doing nothing. Even when I tried sincerely to hold onto the faith. So I became atheist. But every now and again I still get the urge to pray. So I pray to other deities from other religions since Jesus didn't respond. Well, mostly Hindu deities since I like Hinduism (Durga/Shiva). But still nothing.

Maybe I should try praying to as many different gods as possible from as many different pantheons and see if any of them decide to respond and help me? Maybe I should at least try it. I don't think gods are really out there, but maybe if they are one will actually show themselves to me. Why should I believe in a being that supposedly has the power to manifest itself but doesn't? Are they not real? Do they just not care? Maybe they are not really powerful afterall?

Well, a lot of those gods would probably take umbrage at your lack of faith and not want to answer them. I can easily imagine a Jehovah or Allah figure, for example, making the condition even worse just as punishment for you praying to the other gods. Which they explicitly tell you not to do.

But, there's no way to tell what impact God is having on your life until after the fact. Might be He has a reason for you being sick. Might be there's something in your life keeping Him from curing you. There's never any telling. Not getting your prayers fulfilled isn't reason enough to abandon a religion, particularly if you can see other ways in which your god is taking care of you.
 

arthra

Baha'i
Okay. So I am chronically ill. I was raised in a Christian family. My mum kept telling me Jesus would heal me. But after time I realised my belief in him and prayers were doing nothing. Even when I tried sincerely to hold onto the faith. So I became atheist. But every now and again I still get the urge to pray. So I pray to other deities from other religions since Jesus didn't respond. Well, mostly Hindu deities since I like Hinduism (Durga/Shiva). But still nothing. Maybe I should try praying to as many different gods as possible from as many different pantheons and see if any of them decide to respond and help me? Maybe I should at least try it. I don't think gods are really out there, but maybe if they are one will actually show themselves to me. Why should I believe in a being that supposedly has the power to manifest itself but doesn't? Are they not real? Do they just not care? Maybe they are not really powerful afterall?

Sheon....

Thanks for sharing your situation on this forum... So you have a condition that is being managed by medical science for the time and there is no known cure..also as you've stated you have prayed and feel "maybe I should try praying to ...many different gods as possible." I trust that you have confidence in the care you are receiving for your condition from your doctors. We in the Baha'i Faith believe that healing can come through physicians as well as spiritual healing.. Allow me to quote a question on healing that was presented to Abdul-Baha:

A friend interested in healing quoted the words of Bahá'u'lláh: "If one is sick, let him go to the greatest physician."

'Abdu'l-Bahá said:

"There is but one power which heals -- that is God.

The state or condition through which the healing takes place is the confidence of the heart.

By some this state is reached through pills, powders, and physicians.

By others through hygiene, fasting, and prayer.

By others through direct perception."

(Abdu'l-Baha, Abdu'l-Baha in London, p. 95)

May God's blessings enfold your soul and give you a peace beyond the understanding of men...
 

Araceli Cianna

Active Member
Woah, slow your roll. You're the one here seeking divine help, and trying to pray to various gods. We're trying to help guide you in that endeavor, and give you useful advice so that you don't have the wrong impression or expectation. If you don't believe in these gods, why pray to them?

For me all the proof I really need is if one did what they claimed to do. Jesus is meant to be a healer for example. But I am not healed. Even though I was sincere in my faith for so long and didn't commit to him just for healing. But realised eventually no one was answering my prayers. So.... Yeah?
 

Araceli Cianna

Active Member
Sheon....

Thanks for sharing your situation on this forum... So you have a condition that is being managed by medical science for the time and there is no known cure..also as you've stated you have prayed and feel "maybe I should try praying to ...many different gods as possible." I trust that you have confidence in the care you are receiving for your condition from your doctors. We in the Baha'i Faith believe that healing can come through physicians as well as spiritual healing.. Allow me to quote a question on healing that was presented to Abdul-Baha:

A friend interested in healing quoted the words of Bahá'u'lláh: "If one is sick, let him go to the greatest physician."

'Abdu'l-Bahá said:

"There is but one power which heals -- that is God.

The state or condition through which the healing takes place is the confidence of the heart.

By some this state is reached through pills, powders, and physicians.

By others through hygiene, fasting, and prayer.

By others through direct perception."


(Abdu'l-Baha, Abdu'l-Baha in London, p. 95)

May God's blessings enfold your soul and give you a peace beyond the understanding of men...

This is lovely, thank you. I really appreciate this answer.
 

Araceli Cianna

Active Member
Okay so many have pointed out that many deities are not specialised in healing. It's true I have not prayed to healing deities specifically. Perhaps I can try that. Healing is important to me because in another life if I was healthy I would be a doctor myself. Even before I developed my illness all I wanted to do was cure people from their ailments. It is within my nature, so, perhaps a healing deity is calling to me. Perhaps I can try some forms of spiritual healing.
 

Araceli Cianna

Active Member
In my opinion, gods being kind to humans just because they can is a misconception. It doesn't mean they can't be kind, just that they have other things to do. Or the human isn't showing them a sign they should be helped.

I used to be just atheistic, but in truth I'm also a soft polytheist and agnostic. I believe the gods exist as represtations of something, and you can't really prove if they are anything outside of that. Are they conscious? That's hard to answer, since consciousness is a broad term in the first place. But if you believe in something, it does help.

I'll tell you a story. I actually have a lot of sudden pains constantly. Everything from a few-minute heart burn to sudden stabbing sensations in the spine. I don't know what causes the pain but part of it is likely hereditary. One day, I was tired of this pain. I did some magic, as I have been doing to seek my religious stance, but I actually spoke to a goddess of healing this time (instead of focusing on the pain). The next night, in my sleep, she actually appeared in my dream and healed me with light. I didn't even have a sore joint for two weeks after that. Was she real or just my imagination? Either way, the gods must have something to do with our minds. They are with us, as a part of us, but separate from our own consciousness. They are not our superiors, but our equals of another existence.

This goddess never received any devotion from me before. I came to her, and I said "this is what is wrong. I want to sleep without feeling pain. I am crying myself to sleep until four in the morning because it hurts so much. I can't see a doctor immediately and I can't take pills all the time. I read about your powers and I could use just enough to function again. Please ease my pain, for some time. I would be thankful if you could do that." And she did that. No daily prayer or sign of interest prior was required. I treated her more like a person than a divine entity and I got a clear answer from her. Now I make a point to give her thanks every week.

Am I still in pain? Sometimes. We can't always control our life. But thanks to this one goddess, who at first I doubted even existed, and I came to in my most painful moment, with a strong desire to not be in pain, and now I can function again on a physical level. My mental health has become better as well, because I'm in less pain and my mindset changed slightly now that I'm not focusing on it as much.

Natural belief is not forced. We believe in what we see. Everyone will see differently. I think the question most people are really asking when trying to find their religion is "How can I describe what I believe to other people?" Maybe if no one answered you yet, you're probably not realizing that not everyone is Jesus. Jesus creates miracles for the "good people". Maybe this miracle mindset doesn't work for you. Be creative and approach the gods with a less Christian mindset. Don't pray, ask. Don't devote, converse. Don't praise, speak. They might behave a little differently. Even if they don't heal directly, you'll probably feel better just by speaking your concerns and fears to them.

Wow, this is a really beautiful story, thank you for sharing. I will definitely do what you suggested. If I may ask, which healing Goddess did you pray to?
 

MJFlores

Well-Known Member
Okay. So I am chronically ill. I was raised in a Christian family. My mum kept telling me Jesus would heal me. But after time I realised my belief in him and prayers were doing nothing. Even when I tried sincerely to hold onto the faith. So I became atheist. But every now and again I still get the urge to pray. So I pray to other deities from other religions since Jesus didn't respond. Well, mostly Hindu deities since I like Hinduism (Durga/Shiva). But still nothing.

Maybe I should try praying to as many different gods as possible from as many different pantheons and see if any of them decide to respond and help me? Maybe I should at least try it. I don't think gods are really out there, but maybe if they are one will actually show themselves to me. Why should I believe in a being that supposedly has the power to manifest itself but doesn't? Are they not real? Do they just not care? Maybe they are not really powerful afterall?

Why did God wouldn't answer to you?
This is simple - he won't hear you, even if you call to him.

God is no genie, who will grant you 3 wishes - just by rubbing the lamp.
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You really got to know him, believe him and follow him before he would answer.

Isaiah 59:2
But your iniquities have separated you from your God; your sins have hidden his face from you, so that he will not hear.

Even we, people won't respond to anybody we do not know, we won't respond to anybody who hates us and we don't respond to anybody who shows contempt in us.

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It is like dialing a number and all you hear is a busy line or a message "The number you have dialed could not be reached please try your call later." And why would you expect God to answer when you don't know him? Didn't mum tell you never to talk to strangers?

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Does God know you and do you know God? I don't think you do. Why call on other gods, left and right - from India to Pakistan? Do pagans have a god? Are you talking to the right one?

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1 Corinthians 8:4
So then, about eating food sacrificed to idols: We know that “An idol is nothing at all in the world” and that “There is no God but one.”
 

Sha'irullah

رسول الآلهة
Do note that supplication and worship are fundamentally different. One is to beg and grovel and the other is to praise and acknowledge. If anything is worthy of worship and can claim godhood it is undoubtedly the stars.
 

Shia Islam

Quran and Ahlul-Bayt a.s.
Premium Member
Okay. So I am chronically ill. I was raised in a Christian family. My mum kept telling me Jesus would heal me. But after time I realised my belief in him and prayers were doing nothing. Even when I tried sincerely to hold onto the faith. So I became atheist. But every now and again I still get the urge to pray. So I pray to other deities from other religions since Jesus didn't respond. Well, mostly Hindu deities since I like Hinduism (Durga/Shiva). But still nothing.

Maybe I should try praying to as many different gods as possible from as many different pantheons and see if any of them decide to respond and help me? Maybe I should at least try it. I don't think gods are really out there, but maybe if they are one will actually show themselves to me. Why should I believe in a being that supposedly has the power to manifest itself but doesn't? Are they not real? Do they just not care? Maybe they are not really powerful afterall?

First, by praying to another God, you have proven that you don't believe in the one true God.

How can you pray to Him, who you don't believe in?

YOU WERE NOT PRAYING..YOU WERE COMPLAINING ONLY.

Then, although you have a big problem, which is your illness, you have a greatly bigger problem, that you did not mention in your so called prayer! The other problem is your destiny ..

Ask yourself, why am I here..Why am I suffering...
And ask all the questions that you can think of..

And don't assume that all of those who were cured by God..And guided by him were liars..Who Knows..You may become one of them one day..
 

Grandliseur

Well-Known Member
Okay. So I am chronically ill. I was raised in a Christian family. My mum kept telling me Jesus would heal me. But after time I realised my belief in him and prayers were doing nothing. Even when I tried sincerely to hold onto the faith. So I became atheist. But every now and again I still get the urge to pray. So I pray to other deities from other religions since Jesus didn't respond. Well, mostly Hindu deities since I like Hinduism (Durga/Shiva). But still nothing.

Maybe I should try praying to as many different gods as possible from as many different pantheons and see if any of them decide to respond and help me? Maybe I should at least try it. I don't think gods are really out there, but maybe if they are one will actually show themselves to me. Why should I believe in a being that supposedly has the power to manifest itself but doesn't? Are they not real? Do they just not care? Maybe they are not really powerful afterall?
Too bad you were not getting the information you need to cope with your problem, to understand what is, and what will not be now.

I do not know if you read your Bible. Do you know the story about Jacob and how he had to work for his wife which turned into wives. He wanted to marry Rachel (if memory serves) but was tricked into marrying Leah. In the end, he had those two and their concubines.

The point is, God obviously wanted 12 tribes plus the priestly one. He could easily have given Rachel what she needed to produce all of them; instead, as it happened, Rachel died in childbirth after the 2nd child was born. God. did. not. fix. her ! Moses had an impediment of speech. God did not fix this! My wife has begun to have mental problems by reason of age. God does not fix it. Paul asked for his eye ailment to be removed three times. He was told to stop asking for this.

In this world we live in, Christians have the hope of Paradise on earth under kingdom rule. Then things shall be fixed:
Rev 21: Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he shall tabernacle with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, their God. 4 And he shall wipe away every tear from their eyes; and death shall not exist any more, nor grief, nor cry, nor distress shall exist any more, for the former things have passed away.​

The promise by God to fix ailments is for Paradise, not know. What happened when Jesus walked the earth, and his apostles, was a taste of things to come, proof of what God can do.

If you have a problem, you may get the best results if you ask for guidance to the best doctor and best treatment, best medicine. At times, God gives this without us asking when an emergency arises. My grandson was visiting from far away, and went swimming where he got seriously stung by some critter. On the way to the hospital, the ambulance was diverted to a hospital that just happened to have the most eminent doctor for treating this kind of thing. The teenager still needed treatment, and had to endure pain. But, he got the best treatment possible.

The promise is that if we pray according to the will of God, then, and only then shall it be granted if we live righteous lives in Christ. It is not God's will that we presently live without disease and without dying. We are mortal and shall die. After the kingdom has been established pain and illness will be no more.
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
Okay. So I am chronically ill. I was raised in a Christian family. My mum kept telling me Jesus would heal me. But after time I realised my belief in him and prayers were doing nothing. Even when I tried sincerely to hold onto the faith. So I became atheist. But every now and again I still get the urge to pray. So I pray to other deities from other religions since Jesus didn't respond. Well, mostly Hindu deities since I like Hinduism (Durga/Shiva). But still nothing.

Maybe I should try praying to as many different gods as possible from as many different pantheons and see if any of them decide to respond and help me? Maybe I should at least try it. I don't think gods are really out there, but maybe if they are one will actually show themselves to me. Why should I believe in a being that supposedly has the power to manifest itself but doesn't? Are they not real? Do they just not care? Maybe they are not really powerful afterall?

Hey Sheon...
You don't sound like an atheist to me. I'm thinking you'd be better off dropping the labels for a while, and just seeing what makes the most sense for you in your current time.
Why not just consider yourself a seeker?
 

Araceli Cianna

Active Member
Hey Sheon...
You don't sound like an atheist to me. I'm thinking you'd be better off dropping the labels for a while, and just seeing what makes the most sense for you in your current time.
Why not just consider yourself a seeker?

Hi, I don't believe in the gods but for some reason want a reason to believe. Call it habit maybe.
 
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