I hope God saves the Earth from heat death

[Clara Tea]

That is the present concensus and view but 1 kg of petroleum will absord the exact same amount of incident energy E-ve as 1 kg of petroleum that has been transformed . Nothing is lost and nothing is gained .





Energy from the Sun is transmitted by the kE travelling through the Suns quantum field . The Suns quantum field is converged with the Earths quantum field , effectively in day time positions the Suns electromagnetic field extends to the Earths surface . Cloud cover helps prevent the incident energy flowing through the Suns electromagnetic field reaching the surface , which also helps prevent the converged '''field element'' becoming more heated . The Earths system is an enclosed system, magnetic bottled in layman terms by field energy .

However , the Suns incident energy has nothing to do with the kE being produced within the system . The natural thermodynamic chain being affected by this extra kE .

Quantum fields are about subatomic particles, and have little to do with the fields between the sun and the earth.

I think that you are referring to the solar wind (rather than quantum field), and that is a stream of subatomic particles from the sun's nuclear furnace.

Cloud cover absorbs sunlight, and white clouds would reflect some into space. Sunlight is made of photons, which are electromagnetic, but they are not a part of the suns electromagnetic field.

The sun's incident energy does produce more kinetic energy (which is molecular movement known as heat).

It is very difficult to discuss science with a non-scientist because you attempt to bamboozle those who don't have a strong scientific background, and the terms that you use are not those that a scientist would use. It is easy to fool the masses with terms that sound scientific as long as they don't know science.

 

[Clara Tea]

No, the cars speed up because F=ma2 (Newton) , the redirection of track changes the velocity , that is why some roller coasters are designed to travel up a loop then reverse back down the same loop . The momentum runs out , not the kE ,.

The acceleration is due to gravity, and the gravitational constant is the same whether the car is at the top or at the bottom.

Momentum (mv) decreases when velocity decreases.

Kinetic energy ((mv^2)/2) decreases when velocity decreases.

So, with zero velocity, both the KE and Momentum are zero.

KE (kinetic energy) plus PE (potential energy) is always constant, except for losses of energy due to air friction or track friction.

To me, such discussions of Newtonian physics are quite simple. Things really get difficult when discussing quantum mechanics. If you want to bamboozle the masses, who don't understand physics, switching to quantum mechanics would be much more effective.

 

[TheBrokenSoul]

Quantum fields are about subatomic particles, and have little to do with the fields between the sun and the earth.

That is not correct , a quantum field can exist without being expanded from a particle by force . A quantum field as atom particles and atom fields , require converged componets .

I think that you are referring to the solar wind (rather than quantum field), and that is a stream of subatomic particles from the sun's nuclear furnace.

No, particles in the solar winds are independent and free to move .

Cloud cover absorbs sunlight, and white clouds would reflect some into space. Sunlight is made of photons, which are electromagnetic, but they are not a part of the suns electromagnetic field.

Light is neither a particle or wave , light is a quantum field that is beyond visable freuqencies . What you call photons are electromagnetic energy travelling through the quantum fields .

It is very difficult to discuss science with a non-scientist because you attempt to bamboozle .

No , I am more advanced in understanding some physics and you just haven't learnt this new information yet .

 

[TheBrokenSoul]

The acceleration is due to gravity, and the gravitational constant is the same whether the car is at the top or at the bottom.

Momentum (mv) decreases when velocity decreases.

yes , if the incline is a longer length than the momentum carries the car , the car stops , then reverses , I have been on these rides that do that . Nothing to with kE in reality apart from as I explained prior .

 

[MJ Bailey]

Only if allowed. Reply to9 OP

 

[blü 2]

kE means kinetic energy , motion creates kinetic energy , the production of electricty is kinetic energy . Burning fossil fules creates kinetic energy , I think you'll see the point , kinetic energy isn't something a roller coaster uses . A roller coaster uses force redirection rather than kE but while the cars are in motion they will gain some kinetic energy from the motion .

Ahm, in the context of global warming, so what?

 

[TheBrokenSoul]

Ahm, in the context of global warming, so what?

It means that if the rate of kE production within a system excedes the rate of energy transition , the internal energy (u) of the system will increase but not necessarily be a measureable increase because it converges with the system .
Example , you turn on the television , you don't notice the kE passing through space because it is indistinguishable in observation than space and the earths quantum field but if you look in a mirror you can observe the energy is there in reflection .

 

[MJ Bailey]

Energy DOES NOT CEASE TO EXIST. Only Transforms Argue FACT

 

[TheBrokenSoul]

Energy DOES NOT CEASE TO EXIST. Only Transforms Argue FACT

Energy can diminish to a density of zero but still exists .

 

[Suave]

Antoine Lavoisier , a famous French scientist , discovered in experiment what is referred to as Lavoisier's Law ,the conservation of mass .

''Conservation of mass, principle that the mass of an object or collection of objects never changes, no matter how the constituent parts rearrange themselves. Mass has been viewed in physics in two compatible ways. ''

Presently in global warming , the main blame for global warming is said to be C02 emissions but because of Antoines work , I do not believe that can be the cause .
A kg of fossil fuel when converted into work , will always be 1 kg of mass regardless of the rearrangement after use of the mass .

Nothing is lost and nothing is gained according to Antoines work .

However , the heat generated off the use , the kE (kinetic energy) will certainly add to the internal energy of the earths system , hf/V which is high freuqency photon energy divided by volume and our systems kinetic energy max is Kmax=hf/V .

The world is moving forward at a worrying rate now producing electric vehicles to reduce CO2 emissions , however electricity is effectively kE and photons .

They aren't decreasing the rate of warming any by making electric vehicles etc , they are effectively increasing the rate of hf/V .

I just hope God saves us !

There should be no worries about high levels of atmospheric CH4 and C02 due to industrialization or overpopulation, because these greenhouse gases could be sent away to Mars where they'd transform Mars into a warmer planet; this methane and carbon dioxide would help transform Mars into a way more comfortable place for sustaining life from Earth. Any excessive levels of these green house gases could simply be transported via the Space X interplanetary transport system from Earth to Mars.

The first step towards forming a man-made biosphere that is an appreciable fraction in size comparable to Earth's biosphere around Mars as well as on the surface of Mars ( terra-forming) is the deployment of a magnetic shield that protects Mars against the solar wind stripping of its atmosphere. This magnetic shielding would subsequently allow the planet's atmosphere to reacquire its former density that'd be high enough to allow for sustainable surface liquid water.

Reference: https://phys.org/news/2017-03-nasa-magne...phere.html

An effective artificial magnetosphere placed at Langrangian point 1 from Mars is very achievable with foreseeable technology. This magnetic shielding apparatus could weigh less than a few hundred Tons which is within the load capacity of a big Falcon Heavy rocket. I'm guessing the cost of protecting the Martian atmosphere with an artificial magnetosphere would probably be similar to the cost of a small nuclear reactor.

In addition to CH4 (methane) and C02 (carbon dioxide), some few billion Tons of sulfur hexafluoride gas (SF6) could increase Martian atmospheric surface temperatures by over 20 degrees Celsius. Sulfur hexafluoride - Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The SpaceX interplanetary transport system could deliver this super greenhouse gas to Mars at a cost of less than $2,000/kg.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceX_Mar...astructure

Approximately 39 million tons of CFCs could be sent from Earth into the Martian atmosphere in order to sublimate the south polar CO2 glaciers.

Reference: Teles, A. M. M. (2015). Jin, Shuanggen; Haghighipour, Nader; Ip, Wing-Huen (eds.). "Mars Astrobiology: Recent Status and Progress". Planetary Exploration and Science: Recent Results and Advances: 147–245. doi:10.1007/978-3-662-45052-9. ISBN 978-3-662-45051-2. S2CID 125651936.

A hundred thousand Tons of SF6 delivered annually to Mars would cost just approximately a few hundred billion dollars yearly. This is less than a fraction of a percent of the global economic output value. An accumulation a billion Tons of SF6 at an annual rate of a hundred thousand Tons would take less than ten thousand years. The annual cost of less than $100 per person per year on Earth would be totally worth transforming Mars into a world with triple its current atmospheric pressure and a warmer Mars with average surface temperatures greater than typical summer Antarctic temperatures.

The forming of a man-made biosphere that is an appreciable fraction in size comparable to Earth's biosphere around Mars as well as on the surface of Mars ( terra-forming ) would create many high tech jobs, and save planet Earth by way of transferring away its harmful global warming green house gases to Mars where these gases would be beneficial as they'd contribute to forming a man-made biosphere that is an appreciable fraction in size comparable to Earth's biosphere.

 

[rational experiences]

Kindergarten spiritual basic human natural first observation says....

O earth was held by inner core release into expansion. Space history natural cooled pressure science had removed out around earth a backdrop of unnatural earth released radiation.

Known science as human science creator had caused it.

Ice replaced earths held fusion cooling pressure.

Ice said men of science was gods saviour first.

Then life was living saved only because of ice presence a secondary advice.

As man's thoughts in two displaced purpose.

Design machine by Alchemy first.
Reaction inside machine.

Man puts his mind inside machine.

Anti cause man designer man's machine plus man's reaction removal of self the alien effect.

Experiments. Sees the saviour his thesis from bible science being displaced time shifts. Snap freeze instantly appears somewhere else unnaturally on earth.

Is trying to time shift earths poles.

Heavens pressures science theories produces lightning not electricity.

Conscious itself within heavens review only.

Our bio body owns bio chemistry that produces energetic pulses only.

Electricity the state as science created burns us to death.

 

[TheBrokenSoul]

There should be no worries about high levels of atmospheric CH4 and C02 due to industrialization or overpopulation, because these greenhouse gases could be sent away to Mars where they'd transform Mars into a warmer planet; this methane and carbon dioxide would help transform Mars into a way more comfortable place for sustaining life from Earth. Any excessive levels of these green house gases could simply be transported via the Space X interplanetary transport system from Earth to Mars.

The first step towards forming a man-made biosphere that is an appreciable fraction in size comparable to Earth's biosphere around Mars as well as on the surface of Mars ( terra-forming) is the deployment of a magnetic shield that protects Mars against the solar wind stripping of its atmosphere. This magnetic shielding would subsequently allow the planet's atmosphere to reacquire its former density that'd be high enough to allow for sustainable surface liquid water.

Reference: https://phys.org/news/2017-03-nasa-magne...phere.html

An effective artificial magnetosphere placed at Langrangian point 1 from Mars is very achievable with foreseeable technology. This magnetic shielding apparatus could weigh less than a few hundred Tons which is within the load capacity of a big Falcon Heavy rocket. I'm guessing the cost of protecting the Martian atmosphere with an artificial magnetosphere would probably be similar to the cost of a small nuclear reactor.

In addition to CH4 (methane) and C02 (carbon dioxide), some few billion Tons of sulfur hexafluoride gas (SF6) could increase Martian atmospheric surface temperatures by over 20 degrees Celsius. Sulfur hexafluoride - Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The SpaceX interplanetary transport system could deliver this super greenhouse gas to Mars at a cost of less than $2,000/kg.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceX_Mar...astructure

Approximately 39 million tons of CFCs could be sent from Earth into the Martian atmosphere in order to sublimate the south polar CO2 glaciers.

Reference: Teles, A. M. M. (2015). Jin, Shuanggen; Haghighipour, Nader; Ip, Wing-Huen (eds.). "Mars Astrobiology: Recent Status and Progress". Planetary Exploration and Science: Recent Results and Advances: 147–245. doi:10.1007/978-3-662-45052-9. ISBN 978-3-662-45051-2. S2CID 125651936.

A hundred thousand Tons of SF6 delivered annually to Mars would cost just approximately a few hundred billion dollars yearly. This is less than a fraction of a percent of the global economic output value. An accumulation a billion Tons of SF6 at an annual rate of a hundred thousand Tons would take less than ten thousand years. The annual cost of less than $100 per person per year on Earth would be totally worth transforming Mars into a world with triple its current atmospheric pressure and a warmer Mars with average surface temperatures greater than typical summer Antarctic temperatures.

The forming of a man-made biosphere that is an appreciable fraction in size comparable to Earth's biosphere around Mars as well as on the surface of Mars ( terra-forming ) would create many high tech jobs, and save planet Earth by way of transferring away its harmful global warming green house gases to Mars where these gases would be beneficial as they'd contribute to forming a man-made biosphere that is an appreciable fraction in size comparable to Earth's biosphere.

I like Elon Musk but you aren't going to successfully keep going to Mars and back using conventional rocket science . A star ship is required that uses universal physics for ''propulsion'' .

 

[Suave]

I like Elon Musk but you aren't going to successfully keep going to Mars and back using conventional rocket science . A star ship is required that uses universal physics for ''propulsion'' .

"Nuclear fusion, the energy source that fuels the sun and other active stars, could one day propel rockets that allow humans to go to Mars and back in 30 days, researchers say."

Reference: Nuclear Fusion Rocket Could Reach Mars in 30 Days.

Terraforming Mars Using a Weird Greenhouse Gas - Sulfur Hexafluoride

 

[rational experiences]

Father said if men ignore money that owns no meaning in natural reality. Built rockets to take all nuclear threats he built into the sun. Then he would be using correct man's conscious teachings.

As mars first status does not own it.
Nor does earth heavens exist as a thesis what is wrong with our atmosphere

As you egotists did not invent earths heavenly natural mass presence. By space law as natural pressure.

Our human living condition number one is oxygenated pressure by water only.

Earth abstracts waters presence methane for example when it appears in mass Bermuda triangle or in Japan devils sea.

Why nuclear choice in that area was wrong.

Water goes into opened plates releasing Methane by underground fresh water melts. Sealing it off.

The ancients named the devil as a science warning.

Water pressure losses above ground by nuclear conditions forces power plants to go into melt down.

Why you were told to shut them off whilst you still owned the opportunity of control.

Two sun laws to earths origin mass introduced melt and dusts from removed crystalline first status highest fused mass in spatial pressures.

Hence the holiest state says earths gases heavens are not crystal mass. Your atmospheric ideas are false. By space pressure laws.

 

[blü 2]

It means that if the rate of kE production within a system excedes the rate of energy transition , the internal energy (u) of the system will increase but not necessarily be a measureable increase because it converges with the system .
Example , you turn on the television , you don't notice the kE passing through space because it is indistinguishable in observation than space and the earths quantum field but if you look in a mirror you can observe the energy is there in reflection .

But how is that a global warming threat?

 

[ratiocinator]

I can do some scientific engineering design because I know physics .

You have demonstrated again, and again, and again, that you don't have a clue about it. Here you go, yet again:

Heat is a sensory perception , temperture is the measure .

Heat is thermal energy. Temperature describes the average kinetic energy in an object. So something can have a very high temperature yet have very little energy. That's why sparks from a sparkler firework don't burn you if they land on your skin. Even though they can have a temperature of more than 1000°C, they have very little thermal energy (heat).

You're trying to talk about global warming and you don't even understand the basic terminology. Here's a page, with a simple description and a video, to help you understand: Heat and temperature - Specific heat capacity - National 5 Physics Revision - BBC Bitesize

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Antoine Lavoisier , a famous French scientist , discovered in experiment what is referred to as Lavoisier's Law ,the conservation of mass .

''Conservation of mass, principle that the mass of an object or collection of objects never changes, no matter how the constituent parts rearrange themselves. Mass has been viewed in physics in two compatible ways. ''

Presently in global warming , the main blame for global warming is said to be C02 emissions but because of Antoines work , I do not believe that can be the cause .
A kg of fossil fuel when converted into work , will always be 1 kg of mass regardless of the rearrangement after use of the mass .

Nothing is lost and nothing is gained according to Antoines work .

However , the heat generated off the use , the kE (kinetic energy) will certainly add to the internal energy of the earths system , hf/V which is high freuqency photon energy divided by volume and our systems kinetic energy max is Kmax=hf/V .

The world is moving forward at a worrying rate now producing electric vehicles to reduce CO2 emissions , however electricity is effectively kE and photons .

They aren't decreasing the rate of warming any by making electric vehicles etc , they are effectively increasing the rate of hf/V .

I just hope God saves us !

Ow boy.

Do you even have the slightest understanding of how co2 emissions cause global warming?
It sounds like don't.

Hint: it has nothing to do with mass.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

God is at work right now , where do new thoughts come from ?

In this thread, they seem to be coming from the same hole that already digested food comes from.

 

[viole]

Electricity is kinetic energy and adds to the warming .

Electricity is kinetic energy? What on earth does that mean?

Ciao

- viole

 

[viole]

kE means kinetic energy , motion creates kinetic energy , the production of electricty is kinetic energy . Burning fossil fules creates kinetic energy , I think you'll see the point , kinetic energy isn't something a roller coaster uses . A roller coaster uses force redirection rather than kE but while the cars are in motion they will gain some kinetic energy from the motion .

I would say that you typing this nonsense increases the kinetic energy of the particles on your keyboard, too. And without any measurable advantage apart from us leading us closer to heat death. Which would be a welcome outcome, if you insist with that utterly painful display of pseudo scientific absurdities.

Ciao

- viole