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Featured I hope God saves the Earth from heat death

Discussion in 'Science and Religion' started by TheBrokenSoul, Nov 24, 2021 at 8:51 AM.

  1. TheBrokenSoul

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    Antoine Lavoisier , a famous French scientist , discovered in experiment what is referred to as Lavoisier's Law ,the conservation of mass .

    ''Conservation of mass, principle that the mass of an object or collection of objects never changes, no matter how the constituent parts rearrange themselves. Mass has been viewed in physics in two compatible ways. ''


    Presently in global warming , the main blame for global warming is said to be C02 emissions but because of Antoines work , I do not believe that can be the cause .
    A kg of fossil fuel when converted into work , will always be 1 kg of mass regardless of the rearrangement after use of the mass .

    Nothing is lost and nothing is gained according to Antoines work .

    However , the heat generated off the use , the kE (kinetic energy) will certainly add to the internal energy of the earths system , hf/V which is high freuqency photon energy divided by volume and our systems kinetic energy max is Kmax=hf/V .

    The world is moving forward at a worrying rate now producing electric vehicles to reduce CO2 emissions , however electricity is effectively kE and photons .

    They aren't decreasing the rate of warming any by making electric vehicles etc , they are effectively increasing the rate of hf/V .

    I just hope God saves us !
     
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  2. ChristineM

    ChristineM "Be strong" I whispered to my coffee.
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    The title confused me

    Heat death is a universal scale where there is no thermodynamic free energy and would therefore be unable to sustain processes that increase entropy.

    Earth will be long gone by then, consumed by our own sun that will go red giant as it exhausts its fuel.
     
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    Earths system is an ''enclosed'' system via Earths magnetic field .
    Entropy (S) , is the different ways a system can change , I think you mean internal energy (u).
    Internal energy of a system can change in a number of ways . Internal energy can increase or decrease relative to the rate of inflow energy E-ve and/or outflow energy E+ve . Internal energy can also increase or decrease by internal production of kE . If the threshold of internal production of kE is reached , the rate of E+ve can be affected .
    kE is observably indistinguishable from space and the Earths magnetic field , all kE produced is also indistinguishable in measure from the Earths magnetic field . The measure of 0 net charge is constant as mixing 0 with 0 only results in 0 .
    However , internal energy (u) may be affected and become more dense but remain immeasurable in change .

    delta m/V ∝ delta kE/V which states the change of density is proportional to a change of kinetic energy .
     
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    No, i mean the universe, not the tiny, tiny, tiny fraction of a fraction of it that is earth.

    Also i dont believe earth is a closed system it gets energy from the sun and looses energy to space.
     
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    Are you very worried about this?

    I also can’t tell if you think God can save “us” or if you mean it more as a saying…

    You know when one asks for the serenity to accept what cannot be changed, the courage to change what can be and the wisdom to know the difference…?

    In the “wisdom” bit, is that of understanding that one can only really ever change oneself.


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    Yes you are correct and that is why quote tagged ''enclosed'' to describe the word wasn't being used in strict defintion . The Earth's system is partly open , energy that is lost to space E+ve (+ve is a postive vector ) , travels through the earths magnetic field and atmospheric medium . The magnetic field and atmospheric medium having opposing permeability (resistance) , that effectively slows the E+ve process down .
    However , the Earths mass is also a quantum conductor and quantum capacitor , a build up of capacitance is sometimes released in lightning ground trails and Earthquakes .
    My main concern is the gravitaional critical balance of the atmosphere , if the threshold is reached or surpassed , our atmoshere may gain an escape force , effectively lost into space .
     
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    God said let me share some wisdom with you , perhaps God is helping me and the world right now .
    China are producing that much kE the Earths magnetic field lines and magneitc south pole are been curved towards China . Note the magnetic South pole is at the North pole .

    Information : The magnetic poles cannot flip because the magnetic field is not independent of the Earths mass . However , the poles can be distorted in position by being curved towards gravitational mass force .
     
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    Why would God save us? We are exactly as God created. Or do you think God screwed up and will intervene to fix his mistake?

    But anyway, thanks for your belief on this issue, but we defer to what experts in physics and climate science say.
     
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    Very tasty word salad that actually seems to mean nothing. Thanks
     
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    I am an expert on both and I have provided contradictive evidence in providing Antoines work .

    God allows me new thoughts , God allows me Neurolgical Creationism , God is at work right now , where do new thoughts come from ?
     
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    Then you lack patience and understanding , it wasn't word salad at all . If you are unsure on something specific , why not ask ?

    ''The humble shall never fear asking in fear of ridicule ''
     
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    St. Peter said concerning Noah and the coming Judgment: "The heavens existed long ago and the earth held together out of water and through water by the word of God, by means of which things the world that existed at that time was destroyed by being inundated with water. But by the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly people."

    Then there's that old song "God gave Noah the rainbow sign, He said 'no more water but the fire next time.'" I don't think things bode well for Gaia.



    Just my opinion of course.
     
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    If the OP is suggesting it may take a miracle for humanity to avoid annihilation, he may have a point. We are burning down the house, and the will to put out the flames appears to be lacking.
     
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    Hello,
    I have created a diagram demonstrating to you the critical balancing of mass . You can consider the circle is a single oxygen atom . gmf.jpg
     
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    We only have to turn the television on and stand with a radiometer to observe and mesaure an energy increase in the space. The kE emmitted is then divided by volume . Some energy absorbed by atmospheric gases , some absorbed by the earth , some lost to ''outer space'' .
     
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    I hope and believe that God will help you.

    Remember though, that knowledge that leads to distress and fear, does so only because it is lacking in (the serenity and courage of) wisdom.


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  17. It Aint Necessarily So

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    It seems that you don't understand where the extra heat is coming from in global warming. It's not coming from the combustion of fossil fuels directly. The heat is coming from the sun, and it is being trapped by greenhouse gases, just as when your sealed up car sitting in the sun heats up, the heat is not from combustion of the fuel in the tank. It's also from the sun, and being trapped by glass.

    That is incorrect (the usual word is closed, not enclosed, but I'll assume that you are speaking in thermodynamic terms). Energy from the sun passes through that magnetic field and impacts the surface of the earth. Most of it returns to space outside that magnetic field either as reflected light or reradiated absorbed energy, which is generally heat (infrared), and maybe a little visible light if the object is hot enough to glow. But some is absorbed by greenhouse gases on the way back up, and some of that is reradiated back down.

    But back to the fate of man, I believe that it is already too late to avoid catastrophe. Catastrophic weather is already here, and will continue to worsen. There will be a huge toll to pay in animal and plant life, and great human suffering. It's just the way people are. I see humanity as having a smaller, noble head end, and a large, obtuse tail end, and unfortunately, it's the butt end that calls the shots. Humanity has been ignoring the head end for decades now, because that's what humanity does.

    But man will survive this. Global warming may thin the human herd and lead to a lot of human (and animal) suffering, but it won't be the end of man or of life on earth. But that's the price we'll pay because of humanity's unwillingness to prevent disaster, but rather, only to respond to crises. It's not a coincidence that the talk about climate change is just now ramping up a bit. Man had to wait for the land to be scorched, flooded, and blown sufficiently to act.
     
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    We have Gates, Musk, Bezos and the Druids to save us.
    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/14/bil...musk-fight-climate-issue-in-iron-man-way.html

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    That is the present concensus and view but 1 kg of petroleum will absord the exact same amount of incident energy E-ve as 1 kg of petroleum that has been transformed . Nothing is lost and nothing is gained .



    Energy from the Sun is transmitted by the kE travelling through the Suns quantum field . The Suns quantum field is converged with the Earths quantum field , effectively in day time positions the Suns electromagnetic field extends to the Earths surface . Cloud cover helps prevent the incident energy flowing through the Suns electromagnetic field reaching the surface , which also helps prevent the converged '''field element'' becoming more heated . The Earths system is an enclosed system, magnetic bottled in layman terms by field energy .

    However , the Suns incident energy has nothing to do with the kE being produced within the system . The natural thermodynamic chain being affected by this extra kE .
     
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