I guess I don't see the point

[We Never Know]

I guess I dont see the point. Is there something I am missing?

I don't participate in religious debates much at all because....
1. Its about belief and faith
2. Who am I to tell anyone their belief and faith is BS
3. Sometimes belief and faith is all someone has
4. I don't know if a god does exist or not
5. What do I gain by trying to tear others down

Those are 5 reasons why you don't see me participate in religious debates or discussion very much.

 

[John53]

A religious debate on why you don't do religious debate. Original I guess.

 

[We Never Know]

A religious debate on why you don't do religious debate. Original I guess.

One thing I have learned here from reading...
If its about religion, it will become a debate. Hence the name of the forum.

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

Who am I to tell anyone their belief and faith is BS

I don't think that's necessarily what you're supposed to do anyway. You don't say "Your faith and belief is BS", you point out fallacies in what they write in their arguments.

 

[JustGeorge]

One thing I have learned here from reading...
If its about religion, it will become a debate. Hence the name of the forum.

Unless you post it in Interfaith Discussion.

(That's what I do.)

 

[We Never Know]

I don't think that's necessarily what you're supposed to do anyway. You don't say "Your faith and belief is BS", you point out fallacies in what they write in their arguments.

Ok. Scenario...

You can't show evidence your god exist. The bible is full of lies. Your god is a myth. You got suckered into nonsense.

I just as well say your belief and faith are BS.

 

[We Never Know]

Unless you post it in Interfaith Discussion.

(That's what I do.)

I just mostly(99.9%) stay out of it.

 

[John53]

One thing I have learned here from reading...
If its about religion, it will become a debate. Hence the name of the forum.

There are DIR and discussion sections for those who don't want to debate. Utilise them if debating offends you. It sounds like complaining about a pub selling beer.

 

[JustGeorge]

There are DIR and discussion sections for those who don't want to debate. Utilise them if debating offends you. It sounds like complaining about a pub selling beer.

Pubs... I avoid them!

Every time I got into one, someone tries to get me drunk...

The nerve!

 

[We Never Know]

There are DIR and discussion sections for those who don't want to debate. Utilise them if debating offends you. It sounds like complaining about a pub selling beer.

What is the point of debating anyone about "their" belief and faith? To try to tear them down?
Faith and belief may be all someone has that keeps them going. Why would I want to take that way?

 

[danieldemol]

What is the point of debating anyone about "their" belief and faith? To try to tear them down?

I believe you are one of those people who can't separate ideas from the people that have them.

In my opinion.

 

[We Never Know]

I believe you are one of those people who can't separate ideas from the people that have them.

In my opinion.

Faith and belief may be all someone has that keeps them going. Why would I want to take that way?

 

[amorphous_constellation]

1. Its about belief and faith

It's also about behavior and history, and that can bleed into politics, which can affect people outside of an influential faith. Historical analysis can be applied to the approximate periods in history where religiously relevant events occurred, to determine their veracity. The behavior can translate into broader community standards.

Ok. Scenario...

You can't show evidence your god exist. The bible is full of lies. Your god is a myth. You got suckered into nonsense.

The hypothetical atheist who argues in such a fashion, is a mean person in my opinion, and is not going to qualify to debate his position in a civilized and non-hurtful way. I would prefer to take the details of religion under a microscope, insofar as I can, and then examine what those details mean, and determine if they really make rational sense, in comparison to alternative explanations. I try to do that tastfully

Moreover, the one who debates religion ought to even respect it, itself. It is mysterious and it is an enigma, and it's interesting. It did generate some useful material.

But I also don't avoid difficult passages, which I often run into. And so, I have to figure out what to say about them

 

[danieldemol]

Faith and belief may be all someone has that keeps them going. Why would I want to take that way?

It would depend on what their faith motivates them to do.

If their faith motivates them to kill you I believe most people won't have qualms about removing what keeps them going.

The trouble is we are warmed up by degrees, and some won't see what i believe this kind of thinking leads to until its too late;

How Far Should We Go To Accommodate Religious Fanatics?

In my opinion.

 

[Heyo]

I guess I dont see the point. Is there something I am missing?

I don't participate in religious debates much at all because....
1. Its about belief and faith
2. Who am I to tell anyone their belief and faith is BS
3. Sometimes belief and faith is all someone has
4. I don't know if a god does exist or not
5. What do I gain by trying to tear others down

Those are 5 reasons why you don't see me participate in religious debates or discussion very much.

I do participate in religious debates (despite not being religious myself) because:

1. It is about justifying belief. People who want their believes to be coherent ask for help to make their believes as rational as possible. As a rational and kind person, I offer my expertise.
2. Sometimes people want to proselytise using the debate form as a disguise. I feel compelled to not let them get away with that.
3. Since I don't understand how someone can justify their believes, I'm interested in learning.
4. I love to exercise my debating skills.
5. I like to "proselytize" my believes and see how they fare against scrutiny. If they don't hold up, I'll have to change them.
6. I learn new things.

That's why I, as an Agnostic, partake in religious debate. I don't want to destroy your faith but I assume you want it tested if you put it up for debate. I'm just helping you to order it to be consistent.

 

[We Never Know]

It would depend on what their faith motivates them to do.

If their faith motivates them to kill you I believe most people won't have qualms about removing what keeps them going.

The trouble is we are warmed up by degrees, and some won't see what i believe this kind of thinking leads to until its too late;

How Far Should We Go To Accommodate Religious Fanatics?

In my opinion.

And if their faith keeps them from killing theirself?

I don't think there are too many terrorist on here talking about their religion and the need to kill you.

 

[The Hammer]

I guess I dont see the point. Is there something I am missing?

I don't participate in religious debates much at all because....
1. Its about belief and faith
2. Who am I to tell anyone their belief and faith is BS
3. Sometimes belief and faith is all someone has
4. I don't know if a god does exist or not
5. What do I gain by trying to tear others down

Those are 5 reasons why you don't see me participate in religious debates or discussion very much.

I just do discussion these days, as there's no name calling, typically.

 

[danieldemol]

And if their faith keeps them from killing theirself?

I don't think there are too many terrorist on here talking about their religion and the need to kill you.

If I were a betting man I'd wager there are not too many suicidal religious people on here talking about killing themselves either.

In my opinion.

 

[We Never Know]

If I were a betting man I'd wager there are not too many suicidal religious people on here talking about killing themselves either.

In my opinion.

I would wager more than terrorist on here talking about their religion and the need to kill you.

 

[danieldemol]

I would wager more than terrorist on here talking about their religion and the need to kill you.

I believe the mods are quicker to jump on the terrorists than the suicidal posters so I can see how you would wind up with that perception.

In my opinion.