nPeace
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As you pointed out Deeje, one may not be interested in facts, which they may not even have.The flood was to rid the earth of the monstrous offspring of materialized rebel angels and human women. They were the "Nephilim" (Genesis 6) and they were responsible for the whole world of mankind going down a very wicked path of violence and immorality. The only righteous man of that time was Noah.
Because this action involved angelic creatures who had abused their God-given abilities in order to experience human pleasures, God had to create a vessel, (a safe haven) outside of which nothing could survive. The demon angels could have nothing of a material nature to cling to, so the flood eliminated any chance of them remaining in the world of that time. By destroying their offspring and all who followed their wicked course, God took out of existence, freakish humans of monstrous size and strength who had no right to exist, and forced their errant fathers back to the spirit realm where God thereafter placed them under restraint, by removing their ability to materialize. There is no mention of them doing so again.
It was not genocide but a drastic measure taken to stop the spread of that level of wickedness in the earth before God was due to bring in his Messiah. He started to populate the earth again with Noah sons and daughters in law. God had also hand picked the animals specimens that he had brought to Noah to place them on the ark. It just reset the world and put God's purpose back on track.
All the while that Noah was constructing the ark he preached to the people, but no one listened. There was room on that vessel for many more humans, but they chose to stay where they were, immersed in the lifestyle to which they had become accustomed....but soon to be immersed in a very different situation....and it was their own fault.
Again, God gave Pharaoh every opportunity to agree to his request to release the Israelites from harsh slavery, but each time he brought one of the plagues, Pharaoh agreed to let them go, only to change his mind as soon as the plague stopped.
Each of those plagues was designed to humiliate one of Egypt's many gods.....this happened 10 times and on the last time God struck another of Egypt's principle gods...the Pharaoh himself. His successor was also to be treated like a god. The death of the firstborn was not murder because God alone has the right and power over life and death. Pharaoh had ten chances to stop it, but his pride wouldn't let him. This was Pharaoh's fault.
Abraham's bargaining with God over Sodom and Gomorrah proves that God was reasonable about these cities.
He had said that if there were any righteous people in the cities he would spare them.....Lot and his family were the only ones. (Genesis 18:22-33) God knew that there were no righteous people there, but patiently allowed Abraham to test him out. These people were incorrigibly wicked.
The Midianites, who were distantly related to the Israelites cunningly used their women to induce thousands of Israelite males to become involved in sexual immorality and idolatry in connection with Baal of Peor. (Numbers 25:1-9; 14-18; 31:15-16; 1 Corinthians 10:8; Revelation 2:14) Thereafter the Israelites, in obedience to divine command, took vengeance upon Midian. The Midianite cities and walled camps in the area were consigned to the fire. Thousands of domestic animals and many gold articles were taken as spoils. With the exception of the virgins, all, including the five kings of Midian were put to death. (Numbers 31)
Again it was a divine command and it was carried out with his sanction. God does not need our approval or opinions about his right as Universal Sovereign to conduct his business as he sees fit. It was the time and the circumstances of the day and nothing whatever to do with the sensibilities of today's world.
Perhaps the context may explain a little better....
"If you approach a city to fight against it, you should also announce to it terms of peace. 11 If it gives a peaceful answer to you and opens up to you, all the people found there will become yours for forced labor, and they will serve you. 12 But if it refuses to make peace with you and instead goes to war with you, you should besiege it, 13 and Jehovah your God will certainly give it into your hand, and you must strike down every male in it with the sword. 14 However, the women, the children, the livestock, and everything that is in the city, all its spoil, you may plunder for yourself, and you will eat the spoil of your enemies, which Jehovah your God has given to you.. . . .in the cities of these peoples, which Jehovah your God is giving you as an inheritance, you must not allow any breathing thing to live. 17 Instead, you should devote them completely to destruction. . . . just as Jehovah your God has commanded you; 18 so that they may not teach you to follow all their detestable practices that they have done for their gods, causing you to sin against Jehovah your God."
It was an expectation in those times that the conqueror got the spoil.
God's complete disdain for false worship and its detestable practices was reflected in his commands.
The slander is from satan......the one who lied about God and took humans hostage in the beginning, abusing their trust and leading the world into conflict with the Creator.
You are free to evaluate things in any way you wish, but I just wanted you to know that God had his reasons for what he did and the way he did them at that time. The Bible explains his actions as they were carried out in another time in another world. He does not sanction such things today because it is a completely different world with different circumstances.
I just wanted you to have the facts.
Your decisions are yours to make.....I am just a messenger. But there are just two sides.....you have to choose the right one if you want your life to continue according to what God has planned for the life he created here....its up to everyone to make their own decisions about that.
The way I see it, one can choose to reject, or accept a king, and his rules.
If they reject the king, they will choose to leave the domain, and live under another king.
What I think it comes down to, is, at the end of the day, what are the benefits one receives, or don't receive, from the king they choose.
I know there have been many persons that did not understand some things about a situation, and they did not have all the facts, but they chose to focus on the facts they did have, which outweighed the ones they did not.
If a person thinks they have all the facts, it would be impossible to convince them otherwise. So if the facts to them, is that God is terrible, then they have already rejected him.
What I wonder about though, is how does a person choose Atheism, and still blame God for anything, or speak of rejecting God.
I would have thought that if one rejects any view of an existing God, then the conclusion they should come to is, not "God is terrible?, but the stories people write are terrible.
If on the other hand, one can see that there is a God, like so many people do, who don't claim to know who or what God, they would reject religion that promote the God they reject, but search for the God elsewhere - like choosing one king over another.
So, in my mind the question is raised, is it really about facts, or preference?
Because one does not have all the facts, to say 'there is no God', yet they choose to not not believe in any.,, not even searching, as they are doing for ETs.
Thinking on this, the words of Psalms 10:4, and Psalms 14:1 become profoundly more meaningful, logical and reasonable. in line with Romans 1:19-23.