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I feel sorry for intelligent people!

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Granted I have said and done a lot of stupid things. Probably more than the vast majority of posters here at RF

I just feel so sorry for intelligent people who have to live surrounded by stupid shallow minded people.

There are truly such few people that commit to trying to habitually grow more wise and virtuous, in our world.

There is just so much stupidity in our world, no?

It would be nice if foolish people were hard to find and people were wise and mature and insightful , as a general rule.

I'm amazed at how difficult it is to find wise, virtuous, humble, disciplined, mature, insightful, inspirational, strong , agape charitable people to observe, listen to, and imitate.

Being really intelligent and surrounded by stupid people must be extremely depressing and discouraging , no?

My heart goes out to anyone in that predicament.

Do you concur?
 

JustGeorge

Not As Much Fun As I Look
Staff member
Premium Member
Granted I have said and done a lot of stupid things. Probably more than the vast majority of posters here at RF

I just feel so sorry for intelligent people who have to live surrounded by stupid shallow minded people.

There are truly such few people that commit to trying to habitually grow more wise and virtuous, in our world.

There is just so much stupidity in our world, no?

It would be nice if foolish people were hard to find and people were wise and mature and insightful , as a general rule.

I'm amazed at how difficult it is to find wise, virtuous, humble, disciplined, mature, insightful, inspirational, strong , agape charitable people to observe, listen to, and imitate.

Being really intelligent and surrounded by stupid people must be extremely depressing and discouraging , no?

My heart goes out to anyone in that predicament.

Do you concur?

If they're intelligent enough, they'll find a way to adjust. :)
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
In my personal experience in institutions, intelligent people tend to be more depressed than unintelligent people.

Back when drugs, porn, mentally ill women, being an imbecile, and video games were fun, I was less depressed.

Now that I'm seeking enlightenment, none of those things appeal to me (save for chemical and sexual cravings sometimes), and everything just seems like worthless , shallow minded, hedonistic , materialistic vanity, garbage.

It's really hard to be happy when all is vanity/worthless, chasing after the wind. :(

When I can truly help someone, that is where reward is at. But those are rare occasions.

I did manage to make a woman happy today whose son committed suicide years ago (over a girlfriend dumping him) , and that made my day. :)
 

JustGeorge

Not As Much Fun As I Look
Staff member
Premium Member
Back when drugs, porn, mentally ill women, being an imbecile, and video games were fun, I was less depressed.

Now that I'm seeking enlightenment, none of those things appeal to me (save for chemical and sexual cravings sometimes), and everything just seems like worthless , shallow minded, hedonistic , materialistic vanity, garbage.

It's really hard to be happy when all is vanity/worthless, chasing after the wind. :(

I think this has more to do with values than intelligence. And yes, it can really suck when you have morals that push you to do 'better', live 'better' and to make a positive influence on the world and you're surrounded by people who care for nothing deeper than their immediate pleasures. Its downright bleak and depressing.

My doctor says that being with other spiritually minded people is one of the most important things for a religious person to utilize. However, its not available for all of us, and then we're left in a very difficult spot. My heart goes out to you at the moment; not only are you denied that, but you are placed in communion with some very difficult people. I hope your Gods/Goddesses are able to provide you with the support you need during this time. Perhaps there is a lesson in all this for you, and you will gain something spiritually for it. It is often in difficult situations that we grow the most.

When I can truly help someone, that is where reward is at. But those are rare occasions.

I did manage to make a woman happy today whose son committed suicide years ago (over a girlfriend dumping him) , and that made my day. :)

Happy to hear this. :)
 

Suave

Simulated character
Granted I have said and done a lot of stupid things. Probably more than the vast majority of posters here at RF

I just feel so sorry for intelligent people who have to live surrounded by stupid shallow minded people.

There are truly such few people that commit to trying to habitually grow more wise and virtuous, in our world.

There is just so much stupidity in our world, no?

It would be nice if foolish people were hard to find and people were wise and mature and insightful , as a general rule.

I'm amazed at how difficult it is to find wise, virtuous, humble, disciplined, mature, insightful, inspirational, strong , agape charitable people to observe, listen to, and imitate.

Being really intelligent and surrounded by stupid people must be extremely depressing and discouraging , no?

My heart goes out to anyone in that predicament.

Do you concur?

Please don't mind me wallowing in self-pity..
 

PoetPhilosopher

Veteran Member
People who aren't super intelligent can still have a lot of great other qualities. But I do think it may be harder to achieve a great quality of life if super intelligent. It can be harder to relate to people and learn to relate to them. I have heard that super intelligent people tend to stay up later, too. Being late to go to bed and late to rise, could in theory interfere with some people's days.
 

VoidCat

Pronouns: he/him/they/them
As someone who has been tested psychologists and seen to be intelligent by many folks... It's my my most commonly given compliment...No. It's not discouraging. I honestly could care less how intelligent a person is. Im smart enough to realize intelligence isnt everything.

And no. I'm not giving an exact number on my IQ. It's none of your business, people who brag about such things aren't nice, and IQ tests are inaccurate anyway.
 
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Truthseeker

Non-debating member when I can help myself
Granted I have said and done a lot of stupid things. Probably more than the vast majority of posters here at RF

I just feel so sorry for intelligent people who have to live surrounded by stupid shallow minded people.

There are truly such few people that commit to trying to habitually grow more wise and virtuous, in our world.

There is just so much stupidity in our world, no?

It would be nice if foolish people were hard to find and people were wise and mature and insightful , as a general rule.

I'm amazed at how difficult it is to find wise, virtuous, humble, disciplined, mature, insightful, inspirational, strong , agape charitable people to observe, listen to, and imitate.

Being really intelligent and surrounded by stupid people must be extremely depressing and discouraging , no?

My heart goes out to anyone in that predicament.

Do you concur?
I'm intelligent, and what I have trouble with is relating to people socially. It is not mainly because I am intelligent, though. It's because I'm on the autism spectrum. The autism spectrum has made me more intelligent in mathematics, but I have a baseline intelligence also. It has been shown that autistic people with the same general intelligence have a greater ability in mathematics and that they use a different part of the brain for mathematics.
 

Dan From Smithville

What we've got here is failure to communicate.
Staff member
Premium Member
I agree.

I also think there's more to it than intelligence. As I stated in a second post, I think morals and values and general worldview make a huge difference.
I agree with that. Intelligence is just knowing things, though it helps.

Partly too, I think we are becoming a society that does not think or learn like we used to. General knowledge seems to be less generally known.
 

PoetPhilosopher

Veteran Member
I also think there's more to it than intelligence.

I've been noticing the same with appearance / attractiveness lately, as well. A lot of people seem to think that the bulk of attractiveness is what a person is born with. But I think weight can matter a big deal to that too. And it's one thing to say "I don't care about weight!" and I think many people don't. But I've been focusing on it a lot lately as part of my weight loss journey, and there are some side things I've noticed that come with it too... if you look at real before and after pictures of someone who has lost weight, you'll often notice that it doesn't stop at the weight loss - their complexion often looks better, which could show a better diet or at least that their body is much healthier now having lost the weight. Some people who were very large are even barely recognizable after losing 150+ pounds, but if they do the diet right and don't just starve themselves and give up vitamin rich foods in the process, they'll usually end up looking better.

I've had to lose almost one-third of my total weight now. But it's something I kind of had to do. My body wasn't fit for feminizing Hormone Replacement Therapy, I found, after trying it at my peak weight. So I had to lose some.
 

JustGeorge

Not As Much Fun As I Look
Staff member
Premium Member
I agree with that. Intelligence is just knowing things, though it helps.

Partly too, I think we are becoming a society that does not think or learn like we used to. General knowledge seems to be less generally known.

Honestly, I think of intelligence as the ability to know. One can be well read and know many things, but the information may have been difficult to acquire, and they made have had to scan the same subject many times while another person will sit down and glance over something and understand it. Intelligence is also being able to apply the information one already has at their disposal. What we know doesn't do us a lick of good if we can't apply it somewhere.

I agree that the way we learn has changed. It seems our attention spans are shorter, and the purpose for which we learn(if there is one at all) has changed.
 

Dan From Smithville

What we've got here is failure to communicate.
Staff member
Premium Member
Honestly, I think of intelligence as the ability to know. One can be well read and know many things, but the information may have been difficult to acquire, and they made have had to scan the same subject many times while another person will sit down and glance over something and understand it. Intelligence is also being able to apply the information one already has at their disposal. What we know doesn't do us a lick of good if we can't apply it somewhere.

I agree that the way we learn has changed. It seems our attention spans are shorter, and the purpose for which we learn(if there is one at all) has changed.
I delineate between intelligence (the ability to learn) and being smart (the ability to apply what you know). You can be very smart without having a high IQ in my opinion.

To me, it seems as if we have gotten lazier and more reliant on technology or other people. I have seen people that almost want you to think for them when they are perfectly capable of doing it for themselves.
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
Granted I have said and done a lot of stupid things. Probably more than the vast majority of posters here at RF

I just feel so sorry for intelligent people who have to live surrounded by stupid shallow minded people.

There are truly such few people that commit to trying to habitually grow more wise and virtuous, in our world.

There is just so much stupidity in our world, no?

It would be nice if foolish people were hard to find and people were wise and mature and insightful , as a general rule.

I'm amazed at how difficult it is to find wise, virtuous, humble, disciplined, mature, insightful, inspirational, strong , agape charitable people to observe, listen to, and imitate.

Being really intelligent and surrounded by stupid people must be extremely depressing and discouraging , no?

My heart goes out to anyone in that predicament.

Do you concur?

Don't worry too much. Intelligent people can be pretty stupid sometimes.
 

JustGeorge

Not As Much Fun As I Look
Staff member
Premium Member
I delineate between intelligence (the ability to learn) and being smart (the ability to apply what you know). You can be very smart without having a high IQ in my opinion.

To me, it seems as if we have gotten lazier and more reliant on technology or other people. I have seen people that almost want you to think for them when they are perfectly capable of doing it for themselves.

I've been in a unique situation in that I have not had the internet for the larger part of my adult life. I don't have a smart phone, so its not at my fingertips in all situations. One thing I've noticed is during a discussion, when the internet is readily available, everyone will delve into google to find the answer. When its not available, people are more likely discuss back and forth, and come to possible answers on their own.
 

Dan From Smithville

What we've got here is failure to communicate.
Staff member
Premium Member
I've been in a unique situation in that I have not had the internet for the larger part of my adult life. I don't have a smart phone, so its not at my fingertips in all situations. One thing I've noticed is during a discussion, when the internet is readily available, everyone will delve into google to find the answer. When its not available, people are more likely discuss back and forth, and come to possible answers on their own.
It is useful to an extent, but for learning something, it should be a starting place and not the only place. It seems people relying on technology and the internet end up with this very trivial, superficial knowledge of things in my opinion. And, as all of us here should be aware by now, the internet can perpetuate a lot of false information.

Sometimes you could be talking to people with experience on a subject that have knowledge not available in a quick Google search. With discussions I get those same sorts of "Oh wow!" moments where I learn something genuinely new and useful or I make a connection in my thinking that I might not have otherwise by just gleaning facts or a single opinion.

These sorts of social discussion forums come the closest on the internet. One reason I like this so well. Lot's of people can chime in. I have had some good ideas, learned some new things and seen holes in my thinking that I would not have otherwise seen if I was just looking for a few raw facts.
 
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