I did warn you!

[Mock Turtle]

I haven't seen anything about this on RF, but as I had said in many posts before - about adult porn having issues of legality when all such was supposedly without issues (on Pornhub in this case) - we have the evidence that confirms the problem - and not just about underage material. Whether the measures taken will have provided a decent solution is for the future, but all such might occur on so many other websites, so who knows? It's worth reading them all, especially the first.

Opinion | The Children of Pornhub

Millions of videos purged from Pornhub amid crackdown on user content

"As part of our policy to ban unverified uploaders, we have now also suspended all previously uploaded content that was not created by content partners or members of the Model Program," Pornhub said in a company blog post, as first reported by Vice. The purge appears to have hit almost 9 million of the 13.5 million videos on Pornhub as of Sunday, or nearly two-thirds of all the content hosted on the site. "This means every piece of Pornhub content is from verified uploaders, a requirement that platforms like Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Snapchat and Twitter have yet to institute," the company added. "In today’s world, all social media platforms share the responsibility to combat illegal material. Solutions must be driven by real facts and real experts. We hope we have demonstrated our dedication to leading by example."

40 GirlsDoPorn victims sue Pornhub for hosting “sex trafficking” videos

Forty Jane Does who say they were victims of GirlsDoPorn sued Pornhub yesterday for at least $2 million each, alleging that Pornhub hosted videos despite knowing that "GirlsDoPorn was a sex trafficking venture."

In January, a California judge ordered GirlsDoPorn's operators to pay nearly $13 million to 22 women who were tricked and coerced into shooting pornographic videos. The GirlsDoPorn website went offline shortly after that ruling.

Pornhub brings in third-party “identity verification” system for users

The site - and its parent company MindGeek - found itself in the spotlight in early December as New York Times opinion columnist Nicholas Kristof published a feature alleging that Pornhub "monetizes child rapes, revenge pornography, spy cam videos of women showering, racist and misogynist content, and footage of women being asphyxiated in plastic bags." Kristof spoke to several women who said videos of them being sexually assaulted were uploaded to Pornhub without their knowledge or consent and that having them removed was all but impossible due to the site's upload and download policies. Within days, Pornhub suspended uploads and downloads from all nonverified users and deleted millions of videos - nearly 80 percent of its hosted content in the end. Those actions, however, proved to be too little, too late for Visa and Mastercard, which both banned Pornhub from their payment networks.

 

[Stevicus]

I haven't seen anything about this on RF, but as I had said in many posts before - about adult porn having issues of legality when all such was supposedly without issues (on Pornhub in this case) - we have the evidence that confirms the problem - and not just about underage material. Whether the measures taken will have provided a decent solution is for the future, but all such might occur on so many other websites, so who knows? It's worth reading them all, especially the first.

Opinion | The Children of Pornhub

Millions of videos purged from Pornhub amid crackdown on user content

"As part of our policy to ban unverified uploaders, we have now also suspended all previously uploaded content that was not created by content partners or members of the Model Program," Pornhub said in a company blog post, as first reported by Vice. The purge appears to have hit almost 9 million of the 13.5 million videos on Pornhub as of Sunday, or nearly two-thirds of all the content hosted on the site. "This means every piece of Pornhub content is from verified uploaders, a requirement that platforms like Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Snapchat and Twitter have yet to institute," the company added. "In today’s world, all social media platforms share the responsibility to combat illegal material. Solutions must be driven by real facts and real experts. We hope we have demonstrated our dedication to leading by example."

40 GirlsDoPorn victims sue Pornhub for hosting “sex trafficking” videos

Forty Jane Does who say they were victims of GirlsDoPorn sued Pornhub yesterday for at least $2 million each, alleging that Pornhub hosted videos despite knowing that "GirlsDoPorn was a sex trafficking venture."

In January, a California judge ordered GirlsDoPorn's operators to pay nearly $13 million to 22 women who were tricked and coerced into shooting pornographic videos. The GirlsDoPorn website went offline shortly after that ruling.

Pornhub brings in third-party “identity verification” system for users

The site - and its parent company MindGeek - found itself in the spotlight in early December as New York Times opinion columnist Nicholas Kristof published a feature alleging that Pornhub "monetizes child rapes, revenge pornography, spy cam videos of women showering, racist and misogynist content, and footage of women being asphyxiated in plastic bags." Kristof spoke to several women who said videos of them being sexually assaulted were uploaded to Pornhub without their knowledge or consent and that having them removed was all but impossible due to the site's upload and download policies. Within days, Pornhub suspended uploads and downloads from all nonverified users and deleted millions of videos - nearly 80 percent of its hosted content in the end. Those actions, however, proved to be too little, too late for Visa and Mastercard, which both banned Pornhub from their payment networks.

I think what strikes me about this is that this GirlsDoPorn site had been active for 11 years, and they knew that it was a sex trafficking site? Yet the authorities did nothing? Who is protecting these scumbags, and why were the media silent about it all these years? Something like this should have been uncovered and exposed years ago, yet the media dropped the ball. Law enforcement dropped the ball as well.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I think its because its a world-wide forum where laws collide country to country. What's legal in one country is illegal in another.

I figure a standard would need to be established.

 

[A Vestigial Mote]

I think what strikes me about this is that this GirlsDoPorn site had been active for 11 years, and they knew that it was a sex trafficking site? Yet the authorities did nothing? Who is protecting these scumbags, and why were the media silent about it all these years? Something like this should have been uncovered and exposed years ago, yet the media dropped the ball. Law enforcement dropped the ball as well.

Seriously... with VIDEO EVIDENCE, they couldn't go out and find even just one of these girls, offer her protection and question her as to whether everything was on the level? Just too much work, or... ?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I think its because its a world-wide forum where laws collide country to country. What's legal in one country is illegal in another.

I figure a standard would need to be established.

They've taken down numerous incarnations of pirates bay, they purged online gambling and poker from America, but they don't go after this?

 

[Twilight Hue]

They've taken down numerous incarnations of pirates bay, they purged online gambling and poker from America, but they don't go after this?

I dunno. Online gambling is alive and well here in NewYork.

I think the internet is not under one body (or jurisdiction) of regulators. Its left to individual countries.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I dunno. Online gambling is alive and well here in NewYork

Not legally, or not in a direct way (such as using bitcoin to fund a bankroll on a European site that will have us). Only a few states allow that, and even then they are very restricted. For poker you must physically be in those states to play, and while you can play against those in legal states who agreed to a multistate partnership you can't play against a global player base. Thus Pokerstars and WSOP online in America aren't very active.

 

[Mock Turtle]

I think what strikes me about this is that this GirlsDoPorn site had been active for 11 years, and they knew that it was a sex trafficking site? Yet the authorities did nothing? Who is protecting these scumbags, and why were the media silent about it all these years? Something like this should have been uncovered and exposed years ago, yet the media dropped the ball. Law enforcement dropped the ball as well.

Perhaps it just drifted into illegality over time and no one was willing to cry foul.

 

[Sunstone]

I agree with @Stevicus here that this is one of the many things in need of serious and thorough investigation. There are so many such things, it's a minor scandal America's investigative journalism has been progressively crippled as more and more media outlets are bought up by a handful of corporations. Turns out keeping a staff of investigative journalists around isn't profitable enough to make it much more than a public service.

By the way, the good news is there are now a handful of independent organizations dedicated solely to investigative journalism. The Intercept and Judd Legum's "Popular Information" are the two that seem to produce the most articles picked up by other media outlets. But maybe Axios should be included with them. I can't say because I don't know enough about it yet.

 

[Sunstone]

Something worth considering... This isn't deep down about the porn industry versus social and moral responsibility. Nor even internet sites and social media platforms versus social and moral responsibility.

If you've been following things, or even if you only know history, you know the issue here is more accurately described as the relationship(s) between capitalism and social and moral responsibility.

What Pornhub wasn't dong, and now is doing thanks to media exposure, is precisely in the same pattern as what dozens of Fortune 500 companies began doing following Judd Legum's exposure of their donations to extremist right wing lawmakers and political organizations. They'd been doing it for ages without once backing off until only a few weeks ago, Legum began reporting on them.

Among the concerns here is so many people are in denial of these things, and so many others find in them an excuse to spin and exaggerate what it all means must be done to destroy capitalism, entrepreneurialism, private concentrations of wealth, the private investment of capital, etc.

Just like it's out of the question for an ape to wrap it's mind around doing something that doesn't throw the baby out with the bathwater --- yet still, somehow, manages to throw out the bathwater.

Tragically, it too often is.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I agree with @Stevicus here that this is one of the many things in need of serious and thorough investigation. There are so many such things, it's a minor scandal America's investigative journalism has been progressively crippled as more and more media outlets are bought up by a handful of corporations. Turns out keeping a staff of investigative journalists around isn't profitable enough to make it much more than a public service.

By the way, the good news is there are now a handful of independent organizations dedicated solely to investigative journalism. The Intercept and Judd Legum's "Popular Information" are the two that seem to produce the most articles picked up by other media outlets. But maybe Axios should be included with them. I can't say because I don't know enough about it yet.

But, how many good, decent, morally upstanding people are going to be concerned about the well being of people in porn? And to actually be able to name names and point in specific directions? How do you know of such decrepit things?
The only ones who really say anything are those who think the who thing needs to be shut down entirely. Not regulated as it should be, but completely banned.