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Featured I can not reject Science :)

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Amanaki, Apr 7, 2019.

  1. Amanaki

    Amanaki Well-Known Member

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    For many years i have not wanted science to be a righterous path and i have struggled with the facts within science, but after a lot of thinking and meditation i come to the conclution that i could gain something from science, and as a buddhist i have fully embraced the teachings of Buddha that i will never stop doing, But i have realised that to become even better in understanding the world i must embrace the science too, I will probably never understand all i wish to do, but one part of life i have very little knowledge of what science actually say. and ofcourse science of the mind do make me curiouse, because it is so close to Buddhism :)

    I hope to gain scientific wisdom from people here too :)
     
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  2. WalterTrull

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    No need to jettison science, just some definitions of empirical.
     
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  3. dybmh

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    My opinion is that the language of science will help you express your ideas to a diverse audience.

    Hope all is well for you and yours,
     
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  4. Amanaki

    Amanaki Well-Known Member

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    I am agree with you
     
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    That is a heroic attitude! I am impressed.

    I think that one of the most pleasant aspects of Science is that you learn Calculus. Calculus is a beautiful subject. It is finesse. I am not someone who would have the genius to invent the Calculus, but I am able to learn it and can reproduce its proofs. I can also use it to understand other things. I can understand how to quantify the fuel required by rocket. I understand why it is difficult to leave Earth and can calculate how much fuel is required to reach the moon. Look at how amazing that is, because I am not an astronaut. I'm not an astronaut, yet I understand what it takes to reach the moon. I am 'Nobody', but I have royal knowledge. Many people have difficulty believing that a person has ever stood upon the moon, but I understand how its possible. I who am 'Nobody' can understand this and how to calculate the fuel required. I can calculate that and the necessary strength of materials and thickness of the space capsule.

    When someone says that the half life of uranium is 4.5 billion years, I understand how they get that result. While many people have heard that water is H20, I could prove it using simple equipment. I could, in fact, use electricity to separate water into hydrogen and oxygen and measure the volumes which would be in a ratio of 2 to 1. This is a form of freedom. It is a truth that was hitherto unattainable. Its like a key to handcuffs that each individual wears when they are born.
     
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  6. sun rise

    sun rise "Let there be peace and love among all"
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    Science is all about the search for truth through evidence derived from experimentation. Spiritual practices are in a sense inner experiments which lead to internal evidence.
     
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  7. Amanaki

    Amanaki Well-Known Member

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    My biggest problem is to calculate :) i did not understand math when i was studying, but i do understand more about the mind :) But then i need to study the brain and its functions. example. how can the brain understand our thoughts and traslate them in to language or ideas or, why do we taste something with the tongue, as far as i know it is only electric pulses that indicate what we experiences, Then i willuse my knowledge from buddhism to see where i can use both science and buddhism together
     
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    Science is considered a dharmaic thing my personal school of buddhism.
     
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  9. Amanaki

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    Yes science is within the dhamma :) I just have not used it to my own benefit :) But if i can understand science better i can also understand dhamma better (i think)
     
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    A good book on neural science will go a long way with this quest. But, in order to understand it, you will need some basics of anatomy, physiology, and a bit of physics (to understand what a potential is, for example). A bit of calculus, which is the general study of how to quantify change, can help a lot.
     
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    I understand that dharma is the same as nature and all things.
     
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  12. Amanaki

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    I do have some study in anatomy and physiology when i studied to be a nurse :) but yes i do need to refresh it :) i think it can be very interesting field to study neural science too
     
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    In our physical world yes you are right :) but there is the aspect of non physcal world too within dhamma
     
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    I've stubbornly resisted the "elite efrite" for all of my life. It has always seemed to me that the truth is a combination of science and religion, and those from both sides have been insistent, and often more than abusive in their insistence that I choose a side. I've decided that they can all just bugger off. After all no one but ourselves can be responsible for our decisions but us.
     
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    That's true to some. Imo the non physical realm is made up of nothingness and anti-matter and technically "does not exist." even suffering is a figment of our imagination.
     
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    Given current understanding and understanding of the time, of course the Lunar missions were possible.

    Did NASA land men on the Moon? No, not in my opinion. For me, possible doesn’t equal “it happened” or even that it was probable.
     
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    can i ask why do you think they did not land on the moon?
     
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    :) You say 'Possible', but do you know Calculus? It changes the context.
     
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    I have reasons and honestly don’t want to debate. Is that okay?
     
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    Math can build entire world models which don’t actually exist. I don’t care for calculus.
     
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