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Discussion in 'Interfaith Discussion' started by W3bcrowf3r, Oct 17, 2018.

  1. W3bcrowf3r

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    I wonder if the Vedas are also inspired by the One and Only God, our Father, who created the Heavens and the Earth, your God, my God, the God of everything and everyone.

    Now i am reading a translation, but the translation is polytheistic. And i don't trust translations, because 99% of the translations that i saw of different religious Holy Books were sectarian and polytheistic.

    So my question is. Does someone know Sanskrit? And could he explain if the Book is Monotheistic?

    I am already busy with learning Greek, Arabic, Hebrew. And maybe i will add Sanskrit, if it's a Holy Book inspired by God as well.

    PS: I do not follow any organised religion. I think they are all the same. I pray at home. I try to follow every Word that comes out of the Mouth of God, because i want to use them as Light and Guidance and Inspiration.
     
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    I don't have an answer to your question (except a "no, I don't and no, I can't"), but damn you're busy. I'm only reading the Quran and learning Arabic and my head is swirling with information. Everytime I stop focusing on holding it all together it all falls apart and I feel like I should start from the beginning all over again.
     
  3. Aupmanyav

    Aupmanyav Be your own guru

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    Indo-Aryans believed in many Gods and Goddesses (Rigvedic deities - Wikipedia). In the belief I follow (Advaita (non-dual) Hinduism), there is no creation and no Gods or Goddesses. A Supreme God does find mention in Vedas, but that is uncharacteristic. Vedas are not monotheistic (Rig Veda Index). Vedas have been considered a 'revelation' only at a later time.
     
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    I don't read Sanskrit, but I think you'll find the Vedas are a lot different from the monotheistic texts. They also depict a religious community rather different from today's Hinduism(s) -- beginning with the pantheon itself.
     
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  5. W3bcrowf3r

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    I am reading the translations for already 3 years. When you reread the Books, thats when your brain starts remembering and making the neurons stronger.
    So if you want to remember something, repeat it. With repetition we learn.

    I am first focussing on Arabic and the Quran, and in the mainwhile i read the translations of the Holy Books.

    When i am done with Arabic, i will start with Greek and the Gospel. Then Hebrew and the Psalms/Tora. Then maybe Sanskrit for the Vedas.

    Learning a language takes 2-3 years. So its a process. I do them step by step. Not all at the same time. I basically just described my goals.
    So i am now learning Arabic, i know how to read and write it, but my grammar and words are zero.

    Anyways, main advice: focus on topics, step by step when reading a Book. Thats how i started understanding prayer, alms, fasting, pilgrimage.

    Praying = in Arabic it means to follow something closely. I believe the best way of following God is reading the Scriptures. Read them daily, there are three prayer times, David, Daniel etc. Prayed three times as well, the Quran mentioned only three prayer times. Wash yourself according to the Quran, then read, and if you feel like bowing and kneeling because you read something, then do that. In the morning, afternoon and evening.

    Zakaat = help the poor, there is not such a thing as 2.5% zakaat in the Quran. It says, give as much as you can, dont give to much, dont give just a little bit. And you give every harvest/paycheck. Not just once a year...

    Ramadan = fasting in the month when the Quran was revealed to the Arabs. They changed the calendar though. We should follow a luni solar calendar. Example, Arabic month names such as Spring 1 and Spring 2 cant be in winter..

    Hadj = go to the Sacred Temple in Mecca, offer and give it to the poor, and ponder upon God. We can do Hadj in the 4 Forbidden Months. But the sectarians hijacked the place again and started changing the months, they removed Ramadan from the four Forbidden Months when fighting is forbidden, they want people to fight for their idol system in Ramadan, instead of reading the Quran in peace. They also added a lot of things to the hadj, such as throwing stones to a wall which symbolizes Satan etc. which have no bases in the Quran, or kissing a black stone etc. The whole Hadj about feeding the poor with your offer, yearly Hadj, and pondering upon God.

    Sahada = there is no deity except that of God.
    But they changed that as well, and chapter 67 talks about how the hypocrites say that Muhammad is the Messenger. But God already knows he is the Messenger.

    So their 5 pillars are so polutted with the sectarian fabrications. And the most authentic book of ahadith, which they claim, of bukhari, is full with fabrications and errors.

    Why are they still following that system? Because the majority cant study. The majority is a blind sheep. They follow the crowd and their environment.

    This is the same with the Gospel and the Catholics. The Tora and the Pharisees. The Vedas and the Hindus. Its the same in all religions.
    Their Books are True. But they started following fabricated sources besides them.
     
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  6. W3bcrowf3r

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    I dont believe in translations. We need someone who knows Sanskrit.

    Else we are just using a polytheistic translation of a secterian.

    We dont want to base our belief on an incorrect translation
     
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    I dont follow groups. So lets skip that chapter of what they believe.

    Do you know Sanskrit?
     
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    Hi,

    Sorry for potentially adding to the load, but since you are reading the Gospel and the Quran, could I suggest also the Book of Certitude by Baha'u'llah? You can find it online for free here;
    Bahá'í Reference Library - The Kitáb-i-Íqán, Pages 3-41

    Kind regards :)
     
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    Aupmanyav Be your own guru

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    Other than humane behavior (which we term as 'dharma'), there is not much common between monotheistic religions and Hinduism.
    Yes. I know enough for my needs.
     
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    A problem with learning languages for the sake of reading ancient texts is that your ability to read them might not include the full cultural context. In fact I don't think any ancient religious text can be interpreted like the people who wrote them did. Of course there are people who claim superior knowledge based on their own charisma and feeling that they themselves are right, for some reason, whereas others haven't found the right answers.
     
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    I can't really answer you question either. I too come from an Abrahamic background that sees Islam, Christianity and Judiasm as inspired by the same God. I am studying Hinduism as I believe the same God has inspired the peoples of the Indian subcontinent.

    There are monotheistic traditions within Hinduism but polytheism is the much more common.

    Hindu views on monotheism - Wikipedia

    Studying the Bhagavad Gita and Krishna is useful as there are parallels between the way Christians see Christ and an incarnation of God and Krishna as the incarnation of Vishnu.

    Its worth mentioning because of India's history of conflict and colonisation with both Islam and Christianity, some Hindus view Abrahamic Faiths with disdain and suspicion.
     
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    Thanks, i will maybe read it at least once. And decide if its truelly inspired or not.

    Have you read the Book? What do you think about it?
     
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    With similarities between the groups i mean that they invented fabricated sectarian sources which they uphold besides the Holy Books.

    Are you part of a religious group?

    What is the word God in Sanskrit?
     
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    Not everyones reading is the same. I believe how more you read how better your reading skills will be. Dont forget that the majority of people didnt know how to read in those times, which means that the level of the Scriptures is already optimised for those people.

    I also believe that how more languages you know, how better you become in learning new ones.

    So dont worry about me.
     
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    Thanks, I think it is inspired by God, at least to the extent that the Bible and Quran are :) And yes I have read it, as well as the Gospel and the Quran
     
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    Interesting. Good to see you.

    So have you completed the reading of the Vedas?

    I cant imagine that they are just fabricated polytheistic Books. There are billions who claim to be Hindu, would they really not have at least a Scripture that is Truelly inspired by the One True God..
     
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    Cool.

    Anything special that you want to share from that Book.

    I will have to download it and wait until i have time to read it. I am now reading the Book of Mormon, and figuring out if its a true inspiration to the people of America or not. I believe God sends to every nation Messengers.

    Oh and by the way, i also started reading the Sikh Book, forgot its name. Its on pause now. Also Monotheistic, and it seems its a reform for the people in India. Beautiful Book though. That one might be Inspired as well.
     
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    But we have no choice. Someone who knows Sanskrit would only be adding his own 'translation', and even if you were to learn Sanskrit yourself, you'd be reading through your own cultural lens.
    Aup is RF's unofficial Hindu religious scholar, and, if not fluent, He's at least familiar with the language.
    He's quite learnèd.

    I don't think you'll find any succinct, theological synopses in the Vedas. You may also find they can be interpreted at multiple levels.
    Humane behavior? I'm skeptical.
     
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    I don't really have a favourite part, but I think you will like most of it
     
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    Namaskar, The Vedas propound Brahman, the Supreme Lord. All names that the Vedas praise are names of Brahman. The Vedas are not monotheistic in that only one god exists. There are many many gods. I am not learned in Sanskrit myself.
     
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