I Am Because You Are

[Salty Booger]

We need others in order to define who we are? Does that make sense? Would we know who we are without having others as contrast?

Once again, a music video for your listening pleasure as you consider the above.

 

[Stevicus]

 

[rocala]

This is, I think, a very good question. Strangely it is exactly what I have been thinking about.

I have just read the superb novel, 'Eleanor Oliphant is Completely Fine'. Eleanor is a product of her upbringing and is judged accordingly by her colleagues. Life goes on and a few things here and there make her change and in turn peoples view of her changes. It is a beautiful and insightful read.

Who are we? Well that depends on the minute that you ask.

Very nice music choice by the way.

 

[Valjean]

"I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together..."

 

[Unveiled Artist]

I know this by heart. That and Big Top.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Pretty good and positive over view of pee wees history

 

[Brickjectivity]

Pretty good and positive over view of pee wees history

It sounds like a mixture of good and bad luck plus a bit of injustice and a personal vice.

 

[PureX]

We rarely realize this, but our 'identity' is a collective phenomenon that's spread out over a rather large number of people, and over a long period of time. And most of it we have little knowledge or control of. It's interesting how determinedly we think WE DECIDE who we are, and no one else! When in fact, that's not true at all.

 

[Nakosis]

We need others in order to define who we are? Does that make sense? Would we know who we are without having others as contrast?

Once again, a music video for your listening pleasure as you consider the above.

I think we need order in our environment to define ourselves. I don't think the self, the experience of being consciously self-aware can work without it.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

It sounds like a mixture of good and bad luck plus a bit of injustice and a personal vice.

It's not biased. A little sarcastic. I remember seeing interviews on Michael Jackson and every interview except one the interviewer focused on MJs crimes. It's always good to have some balance but not at the expense of a person's right to dignity.

 

[Salty Booger]

Pretty good and positive over view of pee wees history

What was his crime? Jerking off in his car?

 

[Unveiled Artist]

What was his crime? Jerking off in his car?

In a movie theatre. The other (can't remember if he was convicted), he had child pornography. Interestingly enough, he got back on his feet. Many stars, because of public issues, go down hill because of their offenses.

 

[Brickjectivity]

We need others in order to define who we are? Does that make sense? Would we know who we are without having others as contrast?

Yes, because that is the difference between reality and a dream. In a dream people do what you cause them to do. In reality people are not predictable but can be influenced. Friends must be dangerous to be real, and there begins reality.

 

[Salty Booger]

In a dream people do what you cause them to do.

So, you are a lucid dreamer at night?

 

[MNoBody]

We need others in order to define who we are? Does that make sense? Would we know who we are without having others as contrast?

Once again, a music video for your listening pleasure as you consider the above.

The Mayan had and still have a term for others
In Lak'ech Ala K'in - I'm another you

And the Mayan hold the record for having a stable civilization not yet surpassed....hmmmm wonder why?
they did not put a monetary system in between each other either......why would you if everyone is another you?
would you charge yourself for anything and expect payment?
something to reflect upon, in any case..

 

[Salty Booger]

And the Mayan hold the record for having a stable civilization not yet surpassed....hmmmm wonder why?
they did not put a monetary system in between each other either......why would you if everyone is another you?
would you charge yourself for anything and expect payment?
something to reflect upon, in any case..

The monetary systems are an accounting system. Before that barter was the method of giving and taking.

 

[MNoBody]

The monetary systems are an accounting system. Before that barter was the method of giving and taking.

they had no consideration such as barter either
that would be akin to robbing peter to pay paul....or taking a loan with usury attached to pay a debt
consider lemon-aid stands...to wit: if there was no consideration there was no offense, yet if they put a sign up saying lemon-aid in exchange for currency [in any form], or "consideration", then it is a business transaction and falls into the jurisdiction of the monetary franchise system, which said agent was acting in the capacity of subsidiary for and is required to pay their percentage as per the Law.
at least that is the current court rulings on such matters from a perspective

 

[Salty Booger]

"The Maya used several different mediums of exchange and in the trading of food commodities, the barter system was typically used for large orders. Cacao beans were used for everyday exchange in Postclassic times. For more expensive purchases gold, jade and copper were used as a means of exchange."

--Wikipedia

 

[MNoBody]

This is a modern biased look into a past culture, which still is alive today.
consider the system of potlatch
the gifting economy
it was exchange without attachment [consideration] in the modern sense
it took years of living on a reservation with the local indigenous for me to understand the difference.
I had to get out of my colonial paradigm mind and find the perspective that was here prior to colonization... which was a life altering cultural anthropology practicum to say the least
but it wasn't some panacea either as every system had its faults, which led to its demise.

 

[SalixIncendium]

We need others in order to define who we are?

I don't need others to know who I am. I won't speak for you.

Does that make sense?

Yes.

Would we know who we are without having others as contrast?

I would. Again, I won't speak for you.