Trumps miracle cure turns out to kill more people in VA study just released
More deaths, no benefit from malaria drug in VA virus study
More deaths, no benefit from malaria drug in VA virus study
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Hydroxychloroquine actually kills more patients than no treatment at all
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Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
Deaths on the hands of the Doofus-in-Chief.
Shad
Veteran Member
He didn't order the treatment. Blame is on the doctors.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
He pushed for it. He said it was good. He said it had been through the approval process for it. He promoted it and pushed it. He takes responsibility for his words!
And is there a rigorously tested, peer reviewed study that shows it to be effective?
If not....next (and POTUS should not, therefore, have been pushing it, but you'll never admit that, will you?)
I’m a moderate. Not a Trump lover.
To answer your question, I am not aware of any such peer reviewed studies. But I believe there were non-reviewed studies and statements from doctors and researchers who supported use of the drug. Many personal anecdotes as well. But let’s ignore all that and just hate on Trump because.....why not.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
Because time of health experts warned about resorting to these drugs, and worried the outcome could be worse than covid itself. Despite this, Trump promoted the drug, going as far as to claim it has been through the approval process, prompting the FDA to clarify that no it has not been through the approvals for that.
Trump must be held accountable for his words and the consequences they have.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Trump doesn't have a medical miracle cure. He's not a doctor.
I don't think the drug necessarily kills more people as it already is a FDA tested and approved drug. Side effects maybe? From the way it sounds, it's nonetheless ineffective. I'm pretty sure they'll be looking at other alternatives and remedies.
https://www.usnews.com/news/health-...treat-covid-19-despite-little-proof-they-work
Immunology has got to be a difficult field.
You beat me to it.
But I don't understand. His most Royal Majesty told us that it was a game changer. It will magically get rid of the virus, flatulence, ingrown hairs, baldness, and so forth. It is just fantastic. Amazing how he understands this stuff. Must be channeling his uncle.
He never takes the blame for anything. His defenders will assert he never told people to take it, he only touted it and claimed common sense. Next.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
It is an approved FDA drug. The thing is it's not approved for covid-19 as the experts were skeptical it would not do much good.
Of course. He did, but he didn't. He said, but he didn't say. He touted, but he didn't tout.
How he has managed to lie and convince others to defend his lies is his major accomplishment.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
It is NOT FDA approved for Covid. It has NOT been through the approval process. Being an FDA approved drug doesn't mean it's approved for anything other than what it was specifically approved for. Had anyone else said it, the FDA would have a very strong case to nuclear roast their *** in court. As would be appropriate, as promoting the drug in such a way for that is wreckless and even criminal.
When a person is in a position where their words are heard by many and often acted upon as if they were expert advice, it is important that such a person choose their words carefully. Considering that since Trump started touting this drug, people have been hoarding it, some have died from taking formulations not intended for medical use and others have died from taking medicinal versions all based on that touting, he should learn a lesson. My prediction is that he will blame others, deny he said anything and move on, learning nothing. His followers will mop up for him and condemn anyone that points out the facts.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
That's what I just said. I was actually agreeing with ya. *Grin*
The thing is though it is just a study it wasn't like they were distributing it to massive amounts of people but rather participants of the study. I'm pretty sure they were informed of the potential risk involved that it may not be effective.
So I don't really think any illegalities have been breached.
I believe, considering the conditions and needs, they were able to operate under approval to conduct their study.
It is not exactly the same, since it is pesticides and not medicine, but use restrictions on some pesticides have been waved to combat extreme pest problems in some regions. The risk to food security being deemed greater than the short term risk associated with a particular use of a particular pesticide. It is my understanding that the FDA has done something similar with hydroxychloroquine so that it could be tested.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
That definitely would make the most sense. The study itself would have to had approval. I'll bet you're right.