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Featured Human footprint on 500 million year old trilobite fossil

Discussion in 'Evolution Vs. Creationism' started by Amanaki, Jan 11, 2020.

  1. Amanaki

    Amanaki Well-Known Member

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    500 Million-Year-Old Human Footprint Fossil Baffles Scientists

    How do creationists and evolutionists see this in their own beliefs?
    How come that science has not spoken about finding like this the same way they speak of other forms of science?
    Are science afraid of saying they are wrong? or does it go deeper than that?
     
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  2. sooda

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    The creationist team included Dr. Duane Gish of the Institute for Creation Research and Reverend Boswell of a local Sacramento church.

    The Institute for Creation Research
    https://www.icr.org/home/search
    As a federally recognized 501(c)(3) nonprofit ministry of the USA, all gifts to ICR are completely tax deductible to the fullest extent allowed by U.S. law.
     
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    Institute for Creation Research - Wikipedia
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institute_for_Creation_Research
    • Overview
    • History
    • Research and publications
    • Master Books
    • School and accreditation
    • Criticism
    • Notes
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    The Institute for Creation Research (ICR) is a Creationist apologetics institute in Dallas, Texas that specializes in media promotion of pseudoscientific creation science and interpretation of the Genesis creation narrative as a historical event. The ICR adopts the Bible as an inerrant and literal documentary of scientific and historical fact as well as religious and moral truths, and espouses a Young Earth creationist worldview. It rejects evolutionary biology, which it views as a corrupting moral and social influence and t…
     
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    Professor Massimo Pigliucci, a professor of ecology and evolution at the State University of New York at Stony Brook, has criticized ICR for professing to present the same science as that taught in secular universities while at the same time requiring students and faculty to sign a statement of faith to ICR's fundamentalist religious mission, most notably in affirming conformity in all its work to Biblical doctrine. Pigliucci notes that any research conducted within the ICR's policy framework is prescribed at the outset by Biblical literalism, and thus antithetical to the methods and framework used by scientists.[59] As examples, Pigliucci cites ICR scientist Harold Slusher resorting to non-Euclidean and non-Einsteinian explanations of light travel to reconcile the vast distances light travels in space with the brief timescale given in young earth creationism, and the association adopted by the ICR between the second principle of thermodynamics and the Bible's account of the fall of Adam. Pigliucci further claimed that "some of the historical claims found in the ICR museum are also stunning and show how easily ideology gets the better of accuracy."
     
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    That old chestnut? Where is the supposed footprint? Do you know what a footprint looks like?

    no scientist is baffled.
     
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    As I repeatedly say, when you get one of these claims for creation/young earth go to Talk Origins...

    CC102: Sandal footprint found with trilobites

    Debunked, explained
     
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  7. Amanaki

    Amanaki Well-Known Member

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    Trilobite found on the heal of this shoe.
     

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    So not a footprint.

    Not a shoe either if you had a better picture you could see that.
     
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    Twilight Hue The gentle embrace of twilight has become my guide

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    Squish those buggers!
     
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    Twilight Hue The gentle embrace of twilight has become my guide

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    Squish those buggers!
     
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    What is the evidence that scientists are "baffled" by this, please? That smells like lies to me.
     
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    Makes for a good headline though. More accurately 'Creation "scientists" puzzled. '
     
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  13. Amanaki

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    That is the author of the article`s words, not mine, so I can not answer why it was written that way.
    I only asked the question of what creationists and evolutionists thought of this.
     
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    It is a PRATT. Refuted a long time ago and many times since.
     
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    So you have answered my question then :) No need of more discussion it look like, and that is ok :)
     
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    Because it isn't a form of science.
    Scientists don't feed the trolls.
     
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    if that's a 500 million year footprint, it turns science on its head not just creationists
     
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    Polymath257 Think & Care
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    The ICR lies.
     
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    Science does facts not "beliefs".
    "Afraid"? Scientists love being wrong, that is how they
    learn.
    This would be a discovery of earthshaking importance,
    anyone actually interested in what is real and true would
    be jumping up and down.

    Why dont you ask "why is religion afraid of being wrong"?

    Of course the answer to that is obvious.

    Nonsense is not a form of science.
    That you are so quick to be taken in by this
    silly nonsense from a team sworn to intellectual
    dishonesty says all we need to know about the
    probable integrity of your "spiritual ttuths."
     
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    Puzzled? "Lie again".
     
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