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HRH Queen Elizabeth - Queue

JIMMY12345

Active Member
It was sad that this popular Monarch passed away. Equally sad is that mourners intending to pay their last respects face two challenges. One is due to demand people at peak times are asked not to join the queue. Also, to speed things up they have only a few precious seconds before they have to move on for those next in line.

There are at least two lines snaking past either side of the coffin. Maybe they should consider having a raised platform also on either side. This would be accessed by steps for those so able.

This could accommodate more people and allow a few more seconds.

Has anyone been and how was it?
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
It was sad that this popular Monarch passed away. Equally sad is that mourners intending to pay their last respects face two challenges. One is due to demand people at peak times are asked not to join the queue. Also, to speed things up they have only a few precious seconds before they have to move on for those next in line.

There are at least two lines snaking past either side of the coffin. Maybe they should consider having a raised platform also on either side. This would be accessed by steps for those so able.

This could accommodate more people and allow a few more seconds.

Has anyone been and how was it?

Or maybe a big screen.
Or put it on TV... Oh right..
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
It was sad that this popular Monarch passed away. Equally sad is that mourners intending to pay their last respects face two challenges. One is due to demand people at peak times are asked not to join the queue. Also, to speed things up they have only a few precious seconds before they have to move on for those next in line.

There are at least two lines snaking past either side of the coffin. Maybe they should consider having a raised platform also on either side. This would be accessed by steps for those so able.

This could accommodate more people and allow a few more seconds.

Has anyone been and how was it?
I must admit that I did not see the need to queue for hours to do this. I'm a monarchist, but I didn't know her so don't feel it personally.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
It was sad that this popular Monarch passed away. Equally sad is that mourners intending to pay their last respects face two challenges. One is due to demand people at peak times are asked not to join the queue. Also, to speed things up they have only a few precious seconds before they have to move on for those next in line.

There are at least two lines snaking past either side of the coffin. Maybe they should consider having a raised platform also on either side. This would be accessed by steps for those so able.

This could accommodate more people and allow a few more seconds.

Has anyone been and how was it?
Thankfully, I'm 200-miles away.
I don't know why they couldn't sell tickets with (say) a half-hour time slot; many in the queue are pensioners, queuing for 24-hours cannot be good for anyone.
I suspect the truth is, it fits into the ruling classes' playbook. Make the plebs wait their turn and realise their place in the hierarchy. Then the next generation will fall for it too.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
It was sad that this popular Monarch passed away. Equally sad is that mourners intending to pay their last respects face two challenges. One is due to demand people at peak times are asked not to join the queue. Also, to speed things up they have only a few precious seconds before they have to move on for those next in line.

There are at least two lines snaking past either side of the coffin. Maybe they should consider having a raised platform also on either side. This would be accessed by steps for those so able.

This could accommodate more people and allow a few more seconds.

Has anyone been and how was it?
It is sad when anyone dies but hey, she was 96-years old! She had a long and privileged life, wanting for nothing.
My Uncle died last week, he was 80, again very sad, but he had a good life, we had a nice funeral; football wasn't cancelled, TV schedules weren't changed, and all the shops were open as normal.
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
It was sad that this popular Monarch passed away. Equally sad is that mourners intending to pay their last respects face two challenges. One is due to demand people at peak times are asked not to join the queue. Also, to speed things up they have only a few precious seconds before they have to move on for those next in line.

There are at least two lines snaking past either side of the coffin. Maybe they should consider having a raised platform also on either side. This would be accessed by steps for those so able.

This could accommodate more people and allow a few more seconds.

Has anyone been and how was it?
I might have gone if I lived nearer, but not being a monarchist it would seem rather false, given I wouldn't do the same for virtually anyone else apart from family. I respected her and might have gone though. I suppose the authorities have learnt from the many other occasions in other countries, where crowd control was not sufficient, and where hundreds or thousands have died in crushes.

I also suspect that I might not have coped too well with queueing for so many hours, given that the hour I have just spent in a mainly stationary queue (a hundred plus?) due to a foul-up somewhere was not that pleasant - and all for a flu vaccination. :oops:
 
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Yerda

Veteran Member
Make the plebs wait their turn and realise their place in the hierarchy. Then the next generation will fall for it too.
I did see people complaining that MP, press, celebs etc were skipping The Queue. I agree that is completely unfair to the people who have to wait 12 hours. But, being angry that some people are being treated with unfair privelege, while queueing to see a box with a dead monarch inside is the UK in one sentence.
 

pearl

Well-Known Member
Perhaps the prospect of King Charles III is so unpalatable that they want to confirm for themselves that she really is dead.

To accept his character, or lack thereof, I think one must be really in love with a monarchy, so much so it makes little difference who holds the crown.
 

Eddi

Agnostic
Premium Member
It was sad that this popular Monarch passed away. Equally sad is that mourners intending to pay their last respects face two challenges. One is due to demand people at peak times are asked not to join the queue. Also, to speed things up they have only a few precious seconds before they have to move on for those next in line.

There are at least two lines snaking past either side of the coffin. Maybe they should consider having a raised platform also on either side. This would be accessed by steps for those so able.

This could accommodate more people and allow a few more seconds.

Has anyone been and how was it?
She was HM The Queen

Not HRH The Queen

The Monarch is His/Her Majesty

Other royals are His/Her Royal Highness
 

Yerda

Veteran Member
That's a bit...strange. Care to expand?
Some of the monarchists waiting in line are angry that people are being treated unevenly. Some get to skip ahead while others stand all night waiting.

Doesn't being angry about unfair treatment, deference to status and privelege, while queueing for umpteen hours to walk past the ex-Queen's dead body seem a tad ironic to you?

Shouldn't the correct perspective of a monarchist be that some people get what they want, some people just get to want, and this is the natural and rightful order of things?

Also, supporting the rules that allow such differential privelege to exist while being bitter about it seems emblematic of the UK as a whole. Sure, I want Brexit but I don't want it to affect my business that exports to the EU. Of course I voted for the Tories in every general election in my lifetime but I don't think austerity should mean I miss out on things. Etc.

You follow?
 

Secret Chief

nirvana is samsara
Some of the monarchists waiting in line are angry that people are being treated unevenly. Some get to skip ahead while others stand all night waiting.

Doesn't being angry about unfair treatment, deference to status and privelege, while queueing for umpteen hours to walk past the ex-Queen's dead body seem a tad ironic to you?

Shouldn't the correct perspective of a monarchist be that some people get what they want, some people just get to want, and this is the natural and rightful order of things?

Also, supporting the rules that allow such differential privelege to exist while being bitter about it seems emblematic of the UK as a whole. Sure, I want Brexit but I don't want it to affect my business that exports to the EU. Of course I voted for the Tories in every general election in my lifetime but I don't think austerity should mean I miss out on things. Etc.

You follow?
I do; I just didn't want to presume. I'm a European socialist so monarchy, Toryism and brexit are all anathema to me.
 
I don't know why they couldn't sell tickets with (say) a half-hour time slot; many in the queue are pensioners, queuing for 24-hours cannot be good for anyone.
I suspect the truth is, it fits into the ruling classes' playbook. Make the plebs wait their turn and realise their place in the hierarchy. Then the next generation will fall for it too.

You do have a fervent Q-Anon level imagination on some things ;)

That Charles and some Tories sat in a room and came to an agreement to make the common scum wait in a line just so they would know their place and not get all uppity is obviously nonsense.

On the other hand, it's pretty easy to see them underestimating how many people would want to turn up to look at a box with a flag on it. Also setting up a massive ticket sales and distribution service pretty much overnight, even online only, isn't actually that straightforward without any expertise or staff in place to do so. When has the government been good at implementing computer systems? Neither is calculating how many tickets to create per block. Then setting up means to check all the tickets quickly. All of this while risking some kind of career ending fiasco if the ticketing goes wrong, or people don't turn up so it's pretty empty while others couldn't get tickets. Also having tickets like a fun fair might be seen as a bit disrespectful.

No doubt if they had done that you'd have found something else to complain about. Perhaps how callous they were because of all the old dears who couldn't get an online ticket because they don't have a computer or phone for the QR code, or that the touts flogging tickets outside were in league with the Tories :D
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
You do have a fervent Q-Anon level imagination on some things ;)

That Charles and some Tories sat in a room and came to an agreement to make the common scum wait in a line just so they would know their place and not get all uppity is obviously nonsense.

On the other hand, it's pretty easy to see them underestimating how many people would want to turn up to look at a box with a flag on it. Also setting up a massive ticket sales and distribution service pretty much overnight, even online only, isn't actually that straightforward without any expertise or staff in place to do so. When has the government been good at implementing computer systems? Neither is calculating how many tickets to create per block. Then setting up means to check all the tickets quickly. All of this while risking some kind of career ending fiasco if the ticketing goes wrong, or people don't turn up so it's pretty empty while others couldn't get tickets. Also having tickets like a fun fair might be seen as a bit disrespectful.

No doubt if they had done that you'd have found something else to complain about. Perhaps how callous they were because of all the old dears who couldn't get an online ticket because they don't have a computer or phone for the QR code, or that the touts flogging tickets outside were in league with the Tories :D
Have you heard of Ticketmaster, Eventim, Ticketline, etc. that is what they do, sell tickets for events. This government subcontracts everything; perhaps Dido Harding could have gotten the job.
Look, I don't give a Monkeys about what is happening 200-miles away, I'm not complaining about it, I have little interest in it apart from thinking "What a shambles that is"
 

Yerda

Veteran Member
Look, I don't give a Monkeys about what is happening 200-miles away, I'm not complaining about it, I have little interest in it apart from thinking "What a shambles that is"
I'm absolutely fascinated at this point.

English people love a good queue and the monarch just died. It's the perfect conditions for unprecedented queueing.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
I wouldn’t queue for that long but I’m going to the funeral,not the London part but she’s coming back to Windsor up “the long walk” to the castle (love that walk btw) so there should be lots of horses and pageantry,should be a good day.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
I'm absolutely fascinated at this point.

English people love a good queue and the monarch just died. It's the perfect conditions for unprecedented queueing.
I hate queuing, I dislike the monarchy, I am embarrassed to be English - when asked I say I am European
 
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