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Featured How will your religion change once humans live on another planet?

Discussion in 'Interfaith Discussion' started by CharmingOwl, Oct 30, 2022.

  1. CharmingOwl

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    We can't claim Earth or Mars is flat once we are living on Mars. We also cannot really bring all the burial sites of our ancestors, the Vatican, or those other things that may sometimes be important for religious or spiritual reasons. As a pagan I guess the gods of nature can still apply on Mars though our thoughts about it would be radically different. Pagans might have different gods to represent the planet of Mars once they're living there. I am unsure that a lot of Christian, Jewish, or Muslim holy sites and pilgrimages can continue once we're on Mars either, unless a new Mecca is built over there.

    Ironically I think some science-fiction religions like Scientology might actually gain popularity once we're on Mars. They won't be organized the same way and will probably evolve into completely different things, but regardless the basis in Sci-Fi will make it appealing in this scenario. For mine I think they will just replace the element Earth with Mars, and the element of Space will be added on top of the four religious elements.
     
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    I wouldn't be optimistic that we'd last long.

    Looking at the astrological implications, we'd be going from a motherly life affirming entity(if you want to call a planet that) to a war bringing and often brutal entity.

    Doesn't seem promising.
     
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    To answer the question in the title, it won’t.
     
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    Satellite images and photos of the Earth from the Moon hasn't deterred flat-Earthers. I don't see why the view from Mars would have any more effect.
     
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    Because we’d put windows in the shuttle…

    …or just leave all the flat earthers here.​
     
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    Once the ' sin issue ' that started in Eden is settled through the coming of Christ, then after Christ's thousand-year reign over Earth, then there is the possibility of there being intelligent life elsewhere, so No change in religion as to who will be worshipped.
     
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    Without divine involvement into mankind's affairs there would be No hope.
    Only a super-human Hero can solve today's super-human problems.
    I find that God promises that war will end at Psalms 46:9.
    The ' sword-like executional words from Jesus' mouth ' will rid the earth of the wicked
    - Isaiah 11:3-4; Revelation 19:14-15; Psalms 92:7; Psalms 104:35; Proverbs 2:21-22
     
  8. Saint Frankenstein

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    I don't believe humans will make it to other planets, honestly.
     
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    I don't follow this at all, I must say. Nobody educated has claimed the Earth is flat since Eratosthenes estimated its circumference in 300BC. What has that got to do with any religion? No religion claims the Earth is flat, obviously, since we all know it isn't.

    Furthermore neither burial sites nor buildings are crucial to any of the major religions. So I see no reason why these religions should not be followed perfectly successfully by people on Mars or wherever. It is only muslims for whom a pilgrimage to Mecca (the Hajj) is - currently - a duty at some point in their lives. No doubt a way round that would be found.
     
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    I am surprised that most people don't imagine religious beliefs changing in this scenario. Surely being on a different planet complicates ideas of the rapture, right? Or ideas of the apocalypse? At the very least little details of these faiths would have to be modified and edited because they were created during periods of time when technological progress was lower and people did not have much of an idea about what was outside of the planet. Starting a new religion in 2020 really made me have to think about how these things can fit with knowledge of a solar system and other planets existing.
     
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    I don't see this at all in the case of Christianity. The "rapture" is not an intrinsic feature of Christianity, and the book of the Apocalypse is the poetic vision of an old man on a trip of some sort. Few Christians take all that literally. I'm sure the same sort of thing goes for other major religions too. You seem to have a rather naive view of religion.
     
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    Neither of these events are a part of the Hindu paradigm. Kali Yuga is the last of the four ages...the end of the cycle, but there is nothing in Hindu scripture, at least that I'm aware of, that limits these ends of the cycles to Earth.
     
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    I actually was raised in Christianity but never really understood the philosophy or ideologies behind it. My intention is not to "Disprove" or put down any aspects of a religion, I am just suggesting that theology might change or be modified in the event that we move to a different planet. For example it might be said that the supreme being created Mars as well as Earth, or that Mars is a sacred place.

    Personally my practice would change as well, and I would not perceive this as a bad thing. In some Native American tribes they don't even write down their legends because they want them to stay alive and not be kept stagnant in writing.
     
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    Evidently not. There is nothing in Christianity that binds its theology to a specific place. As for creation, the idea is that God was the creator of everything, not just the Earth. So going to Mars is no different from going to Africa in that respect.
     
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    But even Christianity has changed radically in the past 2000 years. Why would you expect religion to suddenly stop changing, regardless of location?
     
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    The Weltanchauung remains the same. My True Will and the Will of my God(s) are what matters most. There are, however, certain factors that would require… adaptation. Discovery. Direct experience.

    Certain cultural elements and holidays that revolve around our planet’s seasons, would change, or in the best case scenario, be recalculated. The “Wheel of the Year”, for instance, could experience subtle or dramatic changes. On another planet, the seasons- and as such the year itself- may become shorter or longer. Seasons may become more extreme, or hardly noticeable at all. The planet itself may be even so inhospitable that the concept of “seasons” has very little meaning. Regardless of what the recalculated holy days look like, one could expect a myriad of new cultural practices unique to the planet and its nature, and its position in the cosmos.

    Another thing worth contemplating is gravity. Fitness as an essential aspect of my religion… improving one’s body as far as one can and pushing past whatever the “limits” might appear to be, to be in excellent shape at any given moment and well prepared for whatever physical challenges come my way. The human body has evolved with the gravity of earth in mind. How will weights feel on other planets? How will running feel? What exercises will become more effective, or less? Will gravity itself on the new planet be better or worse for my body? I would have to learn, and adapt, in whatever ways I could.

    On earth, our gods are many things to us. In many instances, they embody not only human nature (war, love, temptation, chaos, creation, destruction, etc) but also nature itself (the sun, the moon, the sky, the earth, thunder, water). Even those who do not call the objects of their worship “God(s)”, still stand in awe at the magnificent forces within and around them. What awesome forces will we experience and encounter on other worlds? There is what what we take with us… and then there is the unknown, yet to be discovered.
     
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    The lunar calendar becomes a bit iffy.
     
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    For a lot of people, being in a modern world where there are unimaginable advances in knowledge that are light years beyond what the people who started those religions had any concept of at all.

    Today we have all that knowledge, yet fundamentalists want to reject all of that, deny all of that, and believe as the apostles did. "Give me that old time religion, and don't fill me with the new-fangled fancy pants knowledge stuff from out East. God said, I believe it, that's good enough for me, dabnabit!"

    Does religion change even today to meet today's knowledge here on earth? If no, then why would we expect there to be any advances in religion on another planet?

    How would you start a new religion in 2020? Based upon what?
     
  19. Quintessence

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    My religion is my own, and if humans settle another planet it won't be happening within my limited time in this apparent world. Furthermore, if it were somehow an option I would never willingly leave my home. The very idea is abhorrent - my ways are explicitly locality-centered. What possible reason would I ever have for destroying that short of forced relocation?
     
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    As humans invent on planet earth all inventions to go in space.

    Where are the earth facilities to get all supported known conditions just of earth on earth on another planet as Inventor human?

    Seeing all theories are earth based states only in human reality.
     
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