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How to help Hinduism

Discussion in 'Hinduism DIR' started by Jack_Ripper, Oct 19, 2008.

  1. Don Penguinoini

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    Hindus are monotheists at heart. Many faces, but one God :)

    Becoming a Hindu is simple... Just practice and consider yourself a Hindu. Rites and rituals are not needed for everything. It is the change in heart that matters.
     
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    God is not formless. He is with form. Bhagvan Swaminarayan has declared this. He is eternally with form in His abode.
     
  3. Vinayaka

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    Indeed this is one view within Hinduism, not shared by all, but one view. My take is that God is both with form, and formless, simultaneously. :)
     
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    Yes, I also believe the same.


    Truly there is in this world nothing so purifying as knowledge.- (Bhagvad Gita [4.38])
     
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    Some people just say things so well!

    Frubals, Vinayaka-ji, frubals!
     
  6. Vinayaka

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    It is indeed a blessing to be a certain age and having had enough money to move around, get to different temples, observe things. This has enabled me to say 'Hinduism is vast' with a conviction built on experience. In North America alone, the personal temple count is over 30. Others have not had such opportunity. One can only have the viewpoint of one's experience. Children of alcoholics think all adults are alcoholics. This is the way it is. It's the Blind Men and the Elephant syndrome.

    On a personal level, I'm actually quite narrow, and yet on another level of Hindu Solidarity, it is wise to accept all views as having validity for whomever holds them. Why argue, or try to defend a personal view? That has no value in building of character of becoming closer to God. It pushes people apart rather than bringing them together. :) That shouldn't be a devotee's intent. But even then, it's all good because it's understandable.
     
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    Try telling this awesome point explained in the above quote to those Hindus that will pounce on anything they see as different from their mode of worship.

    I should literally start using the line "mystics don't argue" a little bit more - especially when an argument will get nowhere.
     
  8. Vinayaka

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    Indeed. It's either that or just drop out of the discussion without saying anything more. That's my usual method. But yeah, I could use that phrase more too. :) But it's more than mode of worship, it's also philosophy, acceptance of certain Gurus as 'how divine they are' languages, cultural aspects, and I suspect a whole gamut of other things.

    But the more you understand it, the less it bothers you. As I said, there are some who just haven't gotten around much.
     
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    I dont understand why a religions popularity would matter. in my opinion and according to nearly all religions we are living in a era of evil and darkness, so to me it would appear to, beg to, show that the more popular of religions would also, through association, be the darkest and evil of. to answer shortly brother, a religion should have nothing to do with popularity or how wide spread it is, rather how true it and its followers are, because after all, a religion is know by its followers.
     
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  10. Vinayaka

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    Harsh, just where a re you getting this darkness and evil stuff from?
     
  11. Harsh

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    Take it how you will: END OF TIMES -Christianity
    Kali Yuga-Hinduism
     
  12. ShivaFan

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    Namaste Harsh

    It is funny you mention the end times, viz could be in a way sort of like saying "the end of the world". I understand, you speak of Kali Yug which has a lot of truth, more darkness is coming.

    But "the end of the world" is not foreign to Hinduism... I wrote something a couple of years ago on an old city in Afghanistan related in prophecy to "the end of the world", it's history, it's relation to Zoroastrianism and Hinduism and Bhairo or Bhairava. But in it, I also mentioned a Pillar in Kashi called Lat Bhario - and it's relation to "the end of the world".

    It is said, when the head of this copper encased column, which is sinking, goes below the surface of the ground, that will mark the end of (your modern) world.

    It might interest you, 2012, here are some outtakes below:

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    In Kashi there was a large column which was held sacred. It was called Lat Bhairo. Actually it still is there. It is encased in copper. It is understood that Lord Bhairava cut off the 5th head of Brahma. Bhairava is an aspect of Shiva. This is, of course, Brahmanicide, and Bhairo is associated with it. Some say the neck that held this Head of Brahma was worshipped in Kashi as a Column, and was a form of worship of Bhairo. Some say this Lat Bhairo is that murthi....

    ... This column was called the World. Because of the association with Brahmancide, some associate this Column as the End of Caste system. But also something called the End of the World.

    But this is not the same as the dissolution of the universe. More the End of (our) World. Or the End of Hinduism as we know it...

    ... Today it stands only a few feet high, covered with copper sheeting. Under the copper is the fragment of stone pillar that was once a large stone column that stood over 40 feet high. Covering it, many ancient carvings and inscriptions.

    It once stood in the courtyard of a Temple. This temple was destroyed by Aurungzeb, the same before mentioned who as a boy lived in Balkh. On the site of the Temple was built a mosque. This is what they do, often throughout the history of Islam. Today the grounds of the column are about six to eight feet higher than back then.

    In 1809 AD, during the attempt by Islamic fanatics to attack Lat Bhairo, located off the Grand Trunk Road and near Raj Ghat in Kashi, this column was broken by the Muslims. But they didn't get it all. It was recovered by Hindus. Some say it was at that time that it was encased in copper. But others point out, that Xuan Zang a Seventh Century Chinese traveler to Varanasi described a Linga 30 metres high and encased in copper. Which is strange. Perhaps it was encased in copper more than once.

    Previous to the attack on Lat Bhairo, the Islamists attempted to sack the holy Temple of Vishwanatha. The riots at that time over Lat Bhairo were quite horrific, with much blood in the little alleys of the narrow avenues of Varanasi. Reoccurring outbreaks continued until 1811 AD.

    Some say this column was originally an Ashokan column, who ruled the Maurya Dynasty from 269 BC to 232 BC. His Kingdom stretched from Afghanistan to Bengal to almost the South of India. He converted to Buddhism after the Kalinga War.

    We do not know the true story of Lat Bhairo. It is still there today. Some claim those Hindus who fled Ghazni to Kashi in the early 1000s AD had begun the worship of Lat Bhairo. We simply don't know.

    But we know one thing. Before the 1809 AD riots, there was already a very long and outstanding tradition. The tradition was, and I guess still is, declares that the Lat Bhairo is sinking. On the day that the head of the Lat Bhairo is level to the ground, that will be the End of the World. That is the End of Caste. That is the End of Hinduism. Or the End of Something.

    Whatever the End is, this column doesn't have much futher to go before it reaches level with the ground.
     
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  13. Aupmanyav

    Aupmanyav Be your own guru

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    End of times is about a billion years away when Sun would evaporate all water on earth. "The increase in solar luminosity is such that in about another billion years Earth's water will evaporate and escape into space, rendering it inhospitable to all known terrestrial life." Sun - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
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    i like your detailed post, i just wanted to ask you, have you heard of the sacred lingma of shiva that was stolen by muslims, because it was reported to be "speaking" and saying, when the purest of all hindu's pours a glass of water from the ghanga, i shall destroy all falsities and false religions
     
  15. ShivaFan

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    Harsh, There are so many histories it is remarkable. They are our own history, too, of humanity.

    I have had times when literally my hair stands on end before a place and being told from an old man in simple clothes. You may enjoy reading about how the Lingam of Vishvanatha was hidden in the "Wisdom Well" in Kashi. Oh yes, though I do not pin point your reference, it sounds familiar. We it comes back, I may update.

    There was a friend I made who is a Jain, not Hindu. He told me detailed amazing "modern times" events of a Hindu Vaishnav murti where again literally my hair stood up on my body and I became "possessed" if you will. And this conversation all happened while we both sat cross legged in front of the Idol of Mahavira a Jain (not Hindu) Saint. Hinduism is a history and adventure like no other. You will come to know History, and it is HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. You can live this right now, there are many looking at you and voices from.far, far, far.
     
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    i agree, have you heard of a compound in your brain that is know as DMT? Well it reportedly is released from your penile gland upon death, and scientist went on a "spiritual journey" and asked Bhuddist monks when they believe the should is entered into a "fetus" and the monks replied the 49th day after conception, evidently that is the time after conception when the penile gland starts to develop. Anyways, DMT can be extracted from a momosa tree bark, and users (shaman of cuba, i think it was cuba) report meeting "gods" and gaining a connection to another dimension.
     
  17. Salek Atesh

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    Eh, it could be worse. There's only a handful of places in the world where the % of adherents to my faith in any given area is greater than 3%.

    As to why it doesn't have as many adherents today??
    -Many sects. I had a professor once who said "Hinduism" should really be "Hinduisms", since there is a wide variety of different thought and practice within the many different sects of Hinduism. It is thus harder for Hinduism to come together as a whole to concentrate on growing and expanding.
    -Lack of interest in expansion. Hinduism is far different than, say, Mormonism, which places a specific focus on spreading itself and teaching people about it. Hindu "missionaries" don't really exist.
    -No "need" for expansion. Tying into above, Hinduism doesn't necessarily "need" to expand by many understandings. Christians typically see a need to promote their faith because they believe that only other Christians can attain the goal of Heaven, thus they have a good reason to try to convert people. The Hindu goals or puruṣārthas, on the other hand, are attainable by people without needing to become Hindu. Even the parama-puruṣārtha of mokṣa is attainable without becoming a Hindu. As a result, when you do see Hindu (for lack of better term) "missionaries", they can be seen trying to teach people and better their lives, but they are not attempting to convert them to Hinduism. For most understanding of Hinduism, gaining converts is unnecessary.

    To spread Hinduism, you'd essentially need a good reason to spread Hinduism beyond simply wanting to see more Hindus in the world, and then use that reason to ignite a missionary spirit in the Hindu community to encourage the spread of the Faith.

    And perhaps the goal of spreading Hinduism is misguided in the first place, as the "goal" of Hinduism isn't to gain more Hindus. Rather, might it be a better gauge of world spiritual health to look at how many people, both Hindu and non-Hindu, have attained dharma, artha, kama, and/or mokṣa?? Isn't that a bit more important than the number of people who choose to call themselves "Hindu??"
     
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  18. ShivaFan

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    Here is my Vedic Gods Prayer to Invoke Victory, to help Hinduism.

    Agni the Divine Spark.
    And Indra the Illuminated Mind.
    Come the Maruts.
    They assist Indra.
    Now evil is defeated.
    The Ribhus are the seasons of spiritual progress.
    The Ashwins are the horses that make this progress swift.
    Usha awakens our journey.
    Aditi lights our journey.
    Savitri gives it grace.
    Mitra loves the association
    of Gods along the way.
    Ritha is true in action.
    Ritachit is true in consciousness.
    Ila true is vision.
    Saraswati in knowledge.
    Sarama the intuitive mind.
    Dakshina in ability.
    Victory is ours.
     
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