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Featured How is photography not a tool of Satan?

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Akivah, Apr 25, 2017.

  1. Akivah

    Akivah Well-Known Member

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    Is photography prohibited in Islam?

    According to Imam Afroz Ali photographs of humans or animals can not be displayed. All photography that is frivolous and indulgent is forbidden. This includes taking selfies where there is no real essence other than social posing.

    But don't let your heart be troubled about deleting all your photos, photography is allowed if it promotes Allah, his messenger, or Islamic events.
     
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  2. viole

    viole Metaphysical Naturalist
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    Are selfies that make me look like Batman or the Phantom at the Opera allowed?

    Ciao

    - viole
     
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  3. Kemosloby

    Kemosloby Well-Known Member
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    Every photo I take promotes God. What you don't see, that's God.
     
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  4. RabbiO

    RabbiO הרב יונה בן זכריה

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    Only if Bruce Wayne and Erik reciprocate with selfies that them look like you within 12 hours.
     
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  5. Kilgore Trout

    Kilgore Trout Misanthropic Humanist

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    They might want to worry less about prohibition of frivolities, and more about prohibition of seriously f-ed up crap.
     
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  6. Valjean

    Valjean Veteran Member
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    Don't both the Bible and Quran forbid pictures -- of anything?

    “You shall not make unto you any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water below...."
    Exodus. 20:4
     
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  7. Rival

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    ...to worship it. Not just to have for aesthetics or memories (photos).
     
  8. Valjean

    Valjean Veteran Member
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    You're interpreting. It doesn't explicitly say that
     
  9. Brickjectivity

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    We do not need photographs to live, and we do not need airplanes to travel or brooms to clean floors. We can do without 99% of modern things, and we can use tile mosaics instead of photographs. So what are you concerned about? We just all go back towards the bronze age.
     
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    The Bible reveals artistic details of the tabernacle and temple, so such are not forbidden. Exodus 20:4 was forbidding creating objects of worship.(1 Kings 6:29, 7:36) See also 2 Chronicles 9:17-19, describing Solomon's throne decorated with statues of lions.
     
  11. Valjean

    Valjean Veteran Member
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    What? Inconsistencies in The Word?
    I'm shocked, SHOCKED!
     
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  12. Akivah

    Akivah Well-Known Member

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    I think Allah outlawed those specifically.
     
  13. YmirGF

    YmirGF Bodhisattva

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    Is anything that isn't totally nauseating allowed in Islam?
     
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    grav·en im·age
    noun
    a carved idol or representation of a god used as an object of worship.

    Works for me since I don't have a belief about God there's nothing to worship.
     
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  15. columbus

    columbus Conservative Catholic from Hell

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    That is not what a graven image is.
    Graven images are printing plates "engraved" with tools for reproduction. I don't care what some bronze age goat herders thought that the term meant. Those people didn't even know that the earth goes around the sun.
    Tom
     
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  16. Saint Frankenstein

    Saint Frankenstein Pyrphóros ⚡Lux Aeterna
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    Funny how this thread has backfired on the OP since Abrahamic iconoclasm started in ancient Judaism. Oops!
     
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  17. Valjean

    Valjean Veteran Member
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    Separate clause:
    “You shall not make unto you any graven image,
    OR
    any likeness
    of any thing...."
     
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  18. Nakosis

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    Ok, well complain to the folks who translated the Bible. The next line goes on to say: 5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

    Seems pretty clear God didn't want them to create a image to bow down to or serve.

    Other versions of the Bible translate it to idol.

    HEB: תַֽעֲשֶׂ֨ה־ לְךָ֥֣ פֶ֣֙סֶל֙ ׀ וְכָל־ תְּמוּנָ֡֔ה
    NAS: You shall not make for yourself an idol, or any
    KJV: Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness
    INT: shall not make an idol any likeness
     
  19. Kelly of the Phoenix

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    Yeah, but I didn't make the image. The camera did. Loophole!
     
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  20. Milton Platt

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    Don't know who that person is, but can assure you I do not consider him an authority on anything.

    This should be a place for expressing ideas, not making unfalsifiable negative statements. If you have a position on this subject, state it in a positive fashion and provide the evidence to support it. Saying someone said this does not constitute evidence.
     
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