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Featured How is God's prophesy of making Jews jealous by going to the gentiles played out

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by whirlingmerc, Apr 20, 2019.

  1. wizanda

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    Considering you're clearly not aware of the contexts of Isaiah 28:9-19, don't make it up. :confused:

    In my opinion. :innocent:
     
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    What contexts were you elaborating on?

    Aware of many of the contexts, and always willing to learn...
    The Messianic Age is a specific time period, where certain events happen before it; the Messiah in that time period is a spiritual leader of the reality, not just a nation (Zechariah 14:9).
    Revelation 3:12 He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar (Sandalphon) in the temple of my God, and he will go out from there no more. I will write on him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God (Zion - Psalms 146:10, Psalms 147:12, Isaiah 52:7), the new Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from my God, and my own new name (Sananda).

    As an opinion from Zion Elohim, we'd hope our word could be as a fire to avoid more bloodshed... Can you explain what you don't understand about the case presented?

    In my opinion. :innocent:
     
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    In the last chapter, it deals with the importance of following the Law, which includes keeping kosher, having proper animal and grain offerings, observing the Sabbath, the restoration of Jerusalem, etc. However, that simply is not what the Church did, although there's a reason why that doesn't bother me, but that's another story.

    With a condescending remark like that, let me say I'm not interested in discussing this with you.
     
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    You Have Made Your Bed on Every Hill, There You Went Up to ...
    The Teaching Ministry of Jay Mack - Where life and the Bible meetisaiah-commentary/Jm-You-Have-Made-Your-Bed-on...
    They had forsaken God, and Isaiah uses the allusion of them climbing into bed and making a pact with those who they love to worship. It is no wonder that Jesus says: I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, and marries another women commits adultery (Matthew 19:9) .
    Its about who is worthy of being taught. It hints at trying to teach those who are too stupid or drunk to be taught.

    Seems to me that the whole book of Isaiah is about Israel or the Jewish people.
     
  5. wizanda

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    Really sorry, wasn't meaning it to be condescending in anyway; like literally stuck on what else needed to be put across, to make the case any clearer?

    Since it's possible to show where the false texts are in the Bible, and fix the Abrahamic divide, it would help reduce the bloodshed.

    In my opinion. :innocent:
     
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    As the person sent from Heaven with the name of the Messiah, where it can mean humble in Hebrew (צנע - tsâna‛ H6800) - really just trying to help before the end of humanity.

    This is the second time you've incorrectly judged us, so please give us the benefit of the doubt, as always trying to be just - if someone shows us with reasoning a different case, will adjust.
    Isaiah 66 happens at the restoration or the end of the Curse of Moses (Deuteronomy 30:1-7), which means in Isaiah 66:14-17 the Lord is about to burn those who stand against the Curse in a single day (Deuteronomy 29:19-26).

    In Isaiah 66:17 akbâr is the Muslims shouting, and the Christians were eating the Abominable things; the tree in the middle of the Garden is the Crucifix.

    The start of Isaiah 66:1-14 is that the Lord has appointed us (David - Yeshua - Zion) to explain to people; yet so far I've found they've rejected the Law, and exchanged it with their own.

    After the Holy-Fire cleanses reality, those who remain in Isaiah 66:18-24 shall be educated to be priests (Levites) of the Most High in an infinite realm, where there is no longer death or evil.
    This is the point, we have Christianity, Rabbinic Judaism, Islam, Baha'i, etc with religious traditions, that do not match the text using eisegesis, and then we have logical exegesis...

    Like in Zechariah 5 (Isaiah 8) where we have a scroll to catch out the nations on either side, where they swear false oaths, and steal what isn't theirs; this is Christianity/Baha'i on one side, Rabbinic Judaism/Islam on the other - which gets removed in a day...

    Thus as Jeremiah 23:29 says the word could be as a Fire; instead of so many unaware, we could share this wisdom with everyone...

    Yet as you rightly pointed out, it is only 'my opinion'; this only becomes something objective, when everyone studies the word, understands the contexts, and then it 'will become' a light unto the Gentiles, the choice is yours.

    In my opinion. :innocent:
     
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    IndigoChild5559 Loving God and my neighbor as myself.

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    Quite simply, we Jews are NOT jealous of Christianity. Jesus is an irrelevancy to us.

    So sorry, but the plan failed. Utterly.
     
  8. wizanda

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    The plan succeeded to the letter as Moses stated, and most are 'too stiff necked to see it'...

    In Deuteronomy 31:24-29 Moses prophesied the children of our people would be facing backward by the end times, so we can remove them all in one go, for claiming they have peace (Deuteronomy 29:19-26) and standing against the Lord directly (Deuteronomy 32:15-24).
    Yehoshua (H3091) is a branch of David, and Yeshua (H3444) is the Salvation of God; we can't claim to be Jewish whilst rejecting the Lord's testimony (Isaiah 8:16) and Tanakh.
    When it says the other nations Elohim shall become a snare (Deuteronomy 7:25, Deuteronomy 12:30); Rabbinic Judaism has rejected El Elyon (God Most High) as being the Source of reality, even tho both Christ and Islam tried to correct them, they've gone opposite.

    Thus from their jealousies according to the Tanakh, they've all been snared in the Bed of Adultery (Isaiah 28:9-21), because they've rejected the Rock of their Salvation (Deuteronomy 32:15, Isaiah 17:10); it is only those who accept God Almighty, who shall remain in the time to come (Isaiah 10:17-21).

    So instead of Rabbinic Judaism using the knowledge within the Bible to recognize it stated the Lord would become Yeshua (Exodus 15:2, Psalms 118:14-21, Isaiah 12:2); where we can understand educating the Christians on how human sacrifice is wrong, yet not the idea to reject the very Precepts through jealousies.

    To simplify the jealousy: 'El is not like Elohim, and there is none besides.' (Isaiah 46:9) = 'Remember the days of old' (Deuteronomy 32:7-9).

    EL Elyon (H410) = God Most High = Ala Ilah (Allah) = Source = Brahman = Ahura Mazda = Universal Mind = CPU

    Divine Council = Elohim (H430) = Avatars = Archangels --- Eloh (H433) = Archangel = Avatar = Application/Program

    In my opinion. :innocent:
     
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