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How Important It Is To Have Jesus Christ As Your Personal Savior

InChrist

Free4ever
Friday 11-25-22 6th. Day Of The Weekly Cycle, Cheshvan 29, 5783 65th. Fall Day

By Faith what if jesus christ is not your personal savior?


How Important It Is To Have Jesus Christ As Your Personal Savior - Google Search

Matthew 7 BSB (biblehub.com)

Love, Walter and Debbie


I suppose it depends on how much importance one places on their eternal destiny...


...For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.
He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
John 3:16-18
 

Sand Dancer

Crazy Cat Lady
For me it was a long and layered happening.
Such as having a Christian education that taught me how the world is, and then I got outside of that extremely insular world and found that just wasn't the case. I also learned things in history that didn't match what the Church taught me, but it made more sense seeing things through that lens (though it came as a shock to seeing Christianity listed as a reason Rome fell, but as it was taught it made sense as I saw that wasn't an attack on Christianity), and I learned science really just has nothing to with any god or devil and that too wasn't the nasty "Satan's way of pulling people away from God" that I was taught it is, nor did any of it even make any effort or attempt at disproving god.
Another layer was being taught how to hate myself, deeply and profoundly, and I was utterly terrified that because I'm trans and having attractions towards men I was risking angering god and being cast into Hell. Which, in all reality, the preachers of such Churches are very much into threats of hellfire and brimstone, they regularly condemn others and even say other denominations are going to Hell, and I ended up having nightmares of going there (I can still remember the mental anguish and pain of fire burning my flesh).
There is also the layer of Jehovah's absence. I didn't have an easy or pleasant childhood, and nothing ever got easier or better. It was just another hardship or tragedy after another. Amd I didn't find any comfort, at all, in the story of Job because he was being challenged he had a comfortable life filled with happiness and family before his challenge. I didn't have anything yanked away. I was presented with anything new. My entire life just sucked, and despite my beliefs and prayers nothing got better. My parents divorced, my dad was alcoholic, my mom an abusive authoritarian, bullied and tormented, learning of betrayal at a young age, but despite all my pleas (including praying for death) I also got to go through my bus driver running over and killing my dog.
Reading the Bible for myself was also another layer. Not reading what others tell me read and how to read it, but just read it. I was looking for guidance, looking for that love and mercy, looking for inspiration and I found tyranny, great violence, harsh punishments, slavery and misogyny, war and genocide, and none of it was comforting me. It was only helping to push me away.
I remember, as I learning things about the world, I learned many of the OT stories actually came from other cultures. I learned a lot of it just could be true. But Christianity and Jesus was all I knew, and there at the end I even rejected the OT while still clinging to Jesus. But there was no reconciling that without the OT there is no purpose or reason for the existence of the NT, that ultimately without the OT there really can't even be an NT.
And after much inner turmoil and strife I let it all go and the healing could begin. And I seem to have been lucky because when I let it go I let it go and haven't suffered doubts or further fears since I did let it go. But it was such a tremendous burden off my shoulders that I don't think I could have second guessed myself if I wanted to. One second I was a Christian, the next I renounced it all and it was if a terrible curse were lifted from me and came to an end.

Church teachings are often at odds with psychology, history and...reality. I wish they could just be honest instead of trying to pretend it's a perfect religion that fits everyone's needs.

Hope we're not co-opting the thread.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Church teachings are often at odds with psychology, history and...reality. I wish they could just be honest instead of trying to pretend it's a perfect religion that fits everyone's needs.

Hope we're not co-opting the thread.
Where I was they were more upfront that Christianity isn't easy, it won't fulfill your Earthly, fleshy needs, but those are sinful desires anyways so just ignore them and focus on Jehovah and you'll get everything you actually do need.
The prosperity gospel types and those seeking happiness we're all going to Hell because Jehovah wants us to serve him and we'll get what he has planned for us.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
So humans now Mind body affected by AI machine man's science introduced causes don't come to believing aliens AI saved you.

As clouds mass was a volcanos highest ancient law no where earths gases came from.

Earth not a star.

Man compares star metal mass to Christ's iron support of earths metal.

To own red blood...about blood type inside heavens protection of bio life present.

Ice gave us that returned red celled bio health life.

What's not a star from out of space...is planet earths owned body gases.

Infinite law is just for the baby O earth body only...not the same laws for a star. Earth body not a star...stars only surrounded the head of life...O planets body.

The teaching...only stars that wandered by earth of the sun saved life on earth.

Gods body owns cities built by iron metals. Don't destroy gods man's cities by metals that attack fatigue earths stone.
 
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paarsurrey

Veteran Member
"(Jesus) Yeshua- the Israelite Messiah did not die on the Cross", one gets to know from many clues in the Gospels itself, so how could he save the sins of the Hellenist Pauline " Christians", please? Right?
So, isn't it an Illusion that Yeshua- the Israelite Messiah is savior of any person, please, right?
Regards
Jesus could not save himself from a cursed death on the Cross, as per the Pauline-Christians, so , how could he save anybody else, please? Right?

Regards
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Note: "Jesus did not die a cursed death on the Cross", one gets to know from many clues in the Gospels itself, please. Right?
 
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I suppose it depends on how much importance one places on their eternal destiny...


...For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.
He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
John 3:16-18
Hello InChrist, Amen! and thank you.

Love, Walter
 

The Kilted Heathen

Crow FreyjasmaðR
Well, take a look at the rate of broken families amongst African Americans. Think it's about 75% of all black children being raised in single parent homes. I shouldn't say 'black' because there's many thriving and well adjusted communities of 'blacks' such as Indian, Pakistani, Nigerian, Ethiopian etc.. But this figure must be the highest that's ever existed in history - I can't tell that, but I sure would like someone to challenge me on it.
In 1900 the divorce rate reached 3%, and people were concerned. Now it's what, 50%? I don't think that's happened before.

Just anecdotally you can see all this - gambling is no longer illegal or thought to be immoral for instance.
Gambling, drugs, prostitution and porn are a TRILLION DOLLAR INDUSTRY in America. That would have blown the minds of people in 1900.
Lol, what in the sourceless racism?
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Friday 11-25-22 6th. Day Of The Weekly Cycle, Cheshvan 29, 5783 65th. Fall Day

By Faith what if jesus christ is not your personal savior?

How Important It Is To Have Jesus Christ As Your Personal Savior - Google Search

Matthew 7 BSB (biblehub.com)

Love, Walter and Debbie
Jesus is not my personal savior, he's not even my impersonal savior. My relationship with God doesn't need a middle man. Nor does God's forgiveness require a human sacrifice.

Isaiah 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD, and apart from me there is no savior.
 

cataway

Well-Known Member
Friday 11-25-22 6th. Day Of The Weekly Cycle, Cheshvan 29, 5783 65th. Fall Day

By Faith what if jesus christ is not your personal savior?

How Important It Is To Have Jesus Christ As Your Personal Savior - Google Search

Matthew 7 BSB (biblehub.com)

Love, Walter and Debbie
ah to be saved! saved from what ? evidently, you are in some kind of trouble .what trouble are you in ? fact is you are going to die, and that would be the end of you unless there is someone that can save you from death, I only know of one that can do that.
 

Sand Dancer

Crazy Cat Lady
Hello Sand Dancer, I thought I made a statement in the OP/title, but also in the statement, I see what you are talking about within that question, but the post is to Christians and non-Christians, thank you.

Love, Walter
I don't feel the need for a savior. Jesus the man was a role model, and his Christ consciousness is in all of us.
 
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