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How does your religion view sex and sexuality?

Discussion in 'Sexuality' started by Deidre, Jul 25, 2017.

  1. Deidre

    Deidre Follow thy heart

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    lol I almost forgot how silly you are! :p
     
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  2. Sha'irullah

    Sha'irullah رسول الآلهة

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    Hey now! When you wake up in the morning looking at sparrows fornicating on your window seal I am fairly certain you won't be happy.

    Bird on bird action is just fowl :mad:
     
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  3. Deidre

    Deidre Follow thy heart

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    Ahhhhhh...the Catholic Church. haha You know, I don't miss it at all anymore. I used to, but now...it's like a distant memory.

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    Well, I started a journal here and I shed some light on this. I'm at a crossroads with it all, and honestly Carlita, I don't think my mind ever came back to faith...only my heart did. (emotions, in other words) If you care to read my journal, I share some of it in there. :)
     
  4. Unveiled Artist

    Unveiled Artist Seriously?

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    I think I know whatcha mean with being pulled by your emotions but turn around with logic. For me, I think it was probably 60 percent emotional and the rest logical. When I understood what christianity meant behind the supernaturalism, it made more sense supernaturally speaking. For example, a priest can tell me the Eucharist is jesus blood and flesh all day long and I'll look at him crazy no matter how Catholic I would have been. When I read the bible and went to Mass, the Eucharist became a sacrificial meal that when more the two people came together (Mass), that brings christ's spirit present in the Eucharist-which is the body (life) and blood (sacrifice) in christ-the body, the people.

    When I dissect it, in other words, I got it. Problem is, I'm the only one I know that does this. Every single christian regardless the denomination I speak with feels uncomfortable as if questioning their faith will bring them away from god. Its interesting. Every. Christian I spoke with.

    But, yes, I'd love to read your journals. It will take me a bit since I'm studying for history exam and doing this timeline project.
     
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  5. Unveiled Artist

    Unveiled Artist Seriously?

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    @Deidre I don't know if this is your forte, but another thing that helped me was talking to my grandmothers. I have an altar and I talk with my family from time to time, light a candle, and keep them in mind. I meant to visit my grandmother were she rests sometimes this month of not next since my father is sick. But, if you believe in family in spirit, they can probably give you some direction. I remember way way way back when I used to pray to god, I'd write my prayers. I figured that it was stupid to talk to the air but when I write my prayers, then they sort of write themselves. If you brainstorm write, maybe god may "talk" back.

    Anyway.... :)
     
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  6. Deidre

    Deidre Follow thy heart

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    I don't think I believe that in that type of ''spiritual'' after life ...like talking to my grandmother, and she hears me. I don't begrudge people who believe this, but I think...how can my grandmother hear me? Wouldn't that make her on par with a deity? :D
     
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  7. Unveiled Artist

    Unveiled Artist Seriously?

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    Well.... it depends on who you ask and what religion. In African religions, they speak to ancestors to talk to god. Like saints, they are our first intermediary when getting to know god. Spiritualist use different terminology, like "intelligent design" but after reading the history of it, it's just god depersonified. We say Spirit as a collective term for all spirits who are created by (bites her tongue) or breathed to life by "god."

    I don't know what the definition of a deity is, to tell you honestly. I looked it up and the closest non religious definition is an adjective to describe a god.

    But yeah, I personally feel your grandmother can hear you. I'm not an evangelist, so I won't say you have to believe me. ;)
     
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  8. BSM1

    BSM1 What? Me worry?

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    By the hour...just sayin'.
     
  9. Sha'irullah

    Sha'irullah رسول الآلهة

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    I find it so weird because I felt as if I was pushing atheism on you and then after about 3+ years as a staunch atheist I go straight back to religion. I felt very awkward coming out as a theist and I feel even more uncomfortable talking about it still. I was never that bugged as an atheist that much and felt a lot of humiliation when I used to be a Muslim even.

    It is nerve wracking to me still that I even profess having religious faith in my life. I realized I had more emotional fortitude as an atheist than I did as a theist which in my mind I know for a fact should be the opposite. Just bugs me that I can make such a dramatic change in my opinions like this. I honestly wish I was an atheist still because at least I could ignore everything in religion and not be tossed in the same bucket of insanity.

    I also admit I have severe anxiety issues that only go away when I have less to worry about. I would not even call my belief in a god theistic more so apatheistic or ignostic. I just stopped caring about either side anymore and can agree or disagree with either group now
     
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  10. Deidre

    Deidre Follow thy heart

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    I remember our talks about Islam. Gosh, seems like a lifetime ago, but it wasn't that long ago. I think that maybe we just have to not fight it so hard, and follow our mind...our heart. It is interesting that you are a believer, now. And I'm happy for you, Sha. :)
     
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    Deidre Follow thy heart

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    I just wish she never left. :(

    Death is just...ugh. At least for the living, it's ugh. ((thank you for your posts, you are a sweet soul, Carlita)) :heart:
     
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  12. Sha'irullah

    Sha'irullah رسول الآلهة

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    Haven't been called "Sha" in a long time :D

    But yeah. I still incorporate Islam a lot in my life to this very day, especially classical Islam and Tassawufiyya/Sufism yet at the same time I am undoubtedly a hard polytheist. I agree with you though that the heart is more important, especially for somebody like me who will get unprofound stress and panic. I really don't want to go through another depressive phase again, that took me years to get over. I need some resemblance of sanity in my life, especially with college and all
     
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    I can't find any other interpretation about Jesus' recorded words at Matthew 5:32 and Matthew 19:9 that fornication (porneia), pre-marital sex is more than just frowned upon. Of course, people should live their lives in peace because as Hebrews 13:4 says it is God who is the One who will judge fornicators and adulterers.

    In the Bible I find the soul is the person himself. Adam 'became a living soul' according to Genesis 2:7.
    In other words, Adam did Not have a soul. Adam did Not possess a soul. Adam was a soul.
    Adam went from non-life, to life, and returned back to non-life according to Genesis 3:19.
    That is why Ezekiel 18:4,20 can say the soul that sins dies. ( No immortal soul in Scripture )
    And as gospel writer Luke wrote at Acts of the Apostles 3:23 the soul can be destroyed.
     
  14. LuisDantas

    LuisDantas Aura of atheification
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    In Buddhism sexuality is covered by the third precept of Sila (ethics / discipline) and, of course, by the Noble Eightfold Path, particularly the fourth, Right Action.

    Bodhisattva Precepts - Wikipedia

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    How exactly that translates into specific actions and goals is a function of which vows, if any, are taken. And because Buddhism is all about training the mind, it is also to a large degree a function of one's present understanding.

    In Buddhism, as well as outside of it, morality is delimited by one's intellectual ability to predict and understand the consequences of our actions and omissions.
     
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    I find in Scripture that our late grandmothers do Not hear us.
    Sure ' death ' is the price tag sin pays, and the dead are acquitted or freed of their sins as per Romans 6:7, 23.
    Since both Jesus and the old Hebrew Scriptures teach unconscious sleep in death, then as we are Not aware of the passing of time while asleep, so the dead are also Not aware of anything according to John 11:11-14; Psalms 115:17; Psalms 146:4; Ecclesiastes 9:5.
    So, our late grandmothers need to be awakened from death' deep sleep as Daniel looked forward at Daniel 12:2,13.
    Since the resurrected Jesus has the keys to unlock death and the grave for us according to Revelation 1:18, then we have the hope of seeing our resurrected loved ones again.
     
  16. Saint Frankenstein

    Saint Frankenstein On the funeral pyre of existence
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    Why are you replying to a post that has nothing to do with the Bible or Christanity? :facepalm:
     
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    Saint Frankenstein On the funeral pyre of existence
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    Bible spam and preaching.
     
  18. SomeRandom

    SomeRandom Still learning to be wise
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    Yeah not Christian, so the Bible doesn't really apply to me. There are other religions that exist ya know.
     
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    Yes, I know other religions exist, and when we trace mankind's religious family tree back to its base or its roots we go way back to ancient Babylon at the time of the tower of Babel. ( Even people who follow astrology trace roots back to ancient Babylon ). As the people left ancient Babylon they took with them their old religious-myth practices and ideas and spread them world wide into a greater religious Babylon or Babylon the Great. Just because the Bible does Not really apply to them ( they don't use Bible teachings ) does Not make the Bible as being wrong.
     
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    Well maybe in revisionist history. Tower of Babylon is not the birth place of my religion. Kind of predates it.
    But whatever the Bible is still irrelevant to those outside of Christianity so I can still stand by what I said. The soul is gender less and premarital sex may be accepted, even gay marriage could be construed as spiritually acceptable.
     
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