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How Does One Actually Love YHWH/Jehovah?

Harrison

Member
Please notice here neither the generic "god" word nor the specific title of "God" is being used. This discussion is not for those who worship and pursue "gods and goddesses." It is for those who are the People of YHWH/Jehovah. His commonly used title "God" these days is far too easily mishandled and misrepresented.

The question here is, "Given the specific definition of Agape provided in 1 Cor. 13:4-8, what is to be materially done to Love YHWH/Jehovah, other than merely talking about it, chatting with one's ideas, and having nice feelings?"
 

socharlie

Active Member
Please notice here neither the generic "god" word nor the specific title of "God" is being used. This discussion is not for those who worship and pursue "gods and goddesses." It is for those who are the People of YHWH/Jehovah. His commonly used title "God" these days is far too easily mishandled and misrepresented.

The question here is, "Given the specific definition of Agape provided in 1 Cor. 13:4-8, what is to be materially done to Love YHWH/Jehovah, other than merely talking about it, chatting with one's ideas, and having nice feelings?"
YHWH is emanation of the ONE True God. (3“This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent. Jn 17) for certain purpose. To Love God one need to KNOW (ginōskōsin) God. It means commune with God in spirit and truth.
 

Kemosloby

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Please notice here neither the generic "god" word nor the specific title of "God" is being used. This discussion is not for those who worship and pursue "gods and goddesses." It is for those who are the People of YHWH/Jehovah. His commonly used title "God" these days is far too easily mishandled and misrepresented.

The question here is, "Given the specific definition of Agape provided in 1 Cor. 13:4-8, what is to be materially done to Love YHWH/Jehovah, other than merely talking about it, chatting with one's ideas, and having nice feelings?"

"That which you've done to the least of my people you've done unto me"
 

Harrison

Member
YHWH is emanation of the ONE True God. (3“This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent. Jn 17) for certain purpose. To Love God one need to KNOW (ginōskōsin) God. It means commune with God in spirit and truth.

The best way to conduct a useful discussion is to focus upon the given issue or question, rather than attempt to divert it into some vague, supposedly overarching vista of far reaching Church platitudes.

John 17 speaks only of The Father's Love for Christ, twice. There is nothing in that marvelous passage to address the question of this OP.

Thanks for your time and best effort above. Have a wonderful Year End Celebration.
 

socharlie

Active Member
The best way to conduct a useful discussion is to focus upon the given issue or question, rather than attempt to divert it into some vague, supposedly overarching vista of far reaching Church platitudes.

John 17 speaks only of The Father's Love for Christ, twice. There is nothing in that marvelous passage to address the question of this OP.

Thanks for your time and best effort above. Have a wonderful Year End Celebration.
same to you,
you said "Chosen" in your religion, In my circles it means "Pneumatic". What does it mean in your language? I disagree with 'attempt to divert..." but I will not argue - it is your OP. I think, some people sometimes can not see a bigger picture...
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
"That which you've done to the least of my people you've done unto me"

I would like to all the words of Matthew 25:40 because the humble ' sheep'-like people do good to the least of Jesus' spiritual ' BROTHERS ' alive on Earth now before the coming ' time of separation ' to take place on Earth.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
The question here is, "Given the specific definition of Agape provided in 1 Cor. 13:4-8, what is to be materially done to Love YHWH/Jehovah, other than merely talking about it, chatting with one's ideas, and having nice feelings?"

I find one clue to be found in the illustration about the neighborly good Samaritan.
He used his money to help another in his time of distress, thus showing we should all broaden out, or widen out, in showing practical love on a one-on-one basis as needed. We are to believe all things found in God's Word (Bible) as mentioned at 1 Corinthians 13:7 thus act upon it including 'spiritual work' such as found at Matthew 24:14; Acts 1:8.

Plus, to follow Jesus' NEW commandment of John 13:34-35 to have the same self-sacrificing love for others as Jesus has.
In other words, we are Now to love neighbor more than self. Love God more than self.
 

Harrison

Member
same to you,
you said "Chosen" in your religion, In my circles it means "Pneumatic". What does it mean in your language? I disagree with 'attempt to divert..." but I will not argue - it is your OP. I think, some people sometimes can not see a bigger picture...
Please review the original OP to understand "chosen" is not there.

Far more people presume to fabricate a supposedly far reaching yet irrelevant vista as some sort of perspective in order to avoid answering a question beyond their skills. They are unable to focus upon a single issue, but as women, they will think "Everything Is Related To Everything! So, Let's Chatt About Everything We Can Think Of!"

Lol.
 

1robin

Christian/Baptist
Please notice here neither the generic "god" word nor the specific title of "God" is being used. This discussion is not for those who worship and pursue "gods and goddesses." It is for those who are the People of YHWH/Jehovah. His commonly used title "God" these days is far too easily mishandled and misrepresented.

The question here is, "Given the specific definition of Agape provided in 1 Cor. 13:4-8, what is to be materially done to Love YHWH/Jehovah, other than merely talking about it, chatting with one's ideas, and having nice feelings?"
Through obedience and self sacrifice in God's service. Most of us (including me) do not do a very good job at it but the answer to your question is simple enough.
 

Harrison

Member
Through obedience and self sacrifice in God's service. Most of us (including me) do not do a very good job at it but the answer to your question is simple enough.

Is it simple enough for you to give specific examples of how you personally:

1.) Conduct obedience to God?

2.) Sacrifice yourself in service?

Because, if one only talks about these things without materially doing them, they are not worth listening to. It is the same as a preacher who does not walk his talk.
 

Harrison

Member
I find one clue to be found in the illustration about the neighborly good Samaritan.
He used his money to help another in his time of distress, thus showing we should all broaden out, or widen out, in showing practical love on a one-on-one basis as needed. We are to believe all things found in God's Word (Bible) as mentioned at 1 Corinthians 13:7 thus act upon it including 'spiritual work' such as found at Matthew 24:14; Acts 1:8.

Plus, to follow Jesus' NEW commandment of John 13:34-35 to have the same self-sacrificing love for others as Jesus has.
In other words, we are Now to love neighbor more than self. Love God more than self.
Have you done these things?
 

1robin

Christian/Baptist
Is it simple enough for you to give specific examples of how you personally:
I thought you were asking a depersonalized question, I didn't know you were asking each person what they themselves specifically did or do.

1.) Conduct obedience to God?
I go to Church and worship, I participate in Passover ceremonies, I try not to lie, I try not to steal, I do not seek premarital sex, I try and treat people with at least a little more respect than they deserve, I have served as a prayer councilor for a church, I informally proselytize (in an apologetic context), I am obsessed with being informed about my faith, etc........ but the most important thing I do is ask God's forgiveness when I fail in any one of these areas or in the ones I didn't mention.

2.) Sacrifice yourself in service?
I serve dinner to the poor during the holidays, I have picked up more people than you can believe in various states on the side of the road, I try to assist anyone I see in distress, I have talked people into focusing their wrath upon me instead of their weaker target, I try to forgive instead of satisfying my desire for vengeance, I donate money in several ways, etc..... but the most important thing I do is ask God's forgiveness when I fail in any one of these areas or in the ones I didn't mention.

Because, if one only talks about these things without materially doing them, they are not worth listening to. It is the same as a preacher who does not walk his talk.
Actually, my writing them down only accomplishes my feeling and probably seeming arrogant. Seeing someone doing good works does inspire, having them list them only makes me feel like I am bragging by proxy. While you can find more moral giants in Christianity than any other similar group it is also a group that only has the admission to moral failure and the application of grace in common across the board. Our literal entrance exam consists of an admission to failing to qualify.
 

socharlie

Active Member
Please review the original OP to understand "chosen" is not there.

Far more people presume to fabricate a supposedly far reaching yet irrelevant vista as some sort of perspective in order to avoid answering a question beyond their skills. They are unable to focus upon a single issue, but as women, they will think "Everything Is Related To Everything! So, Let's Chatt About Everything We Can Think Of!"

Lol.
sorry, copy and paste:

Religion:
Chosen

but may be it is mot there. just curious ....
 

Harrison

Member
I thought you were asking a depersonalized question, I didn't know you were asking each person what they themselves specifically did or do.

I go to Church and worship, I participate in Passover ceremonies, I try not to lie, I try not to steal, I do not seek premarital sex, I try and treat people with at least a little more respect than they deserve, I have served as a prayer councilor for a church, I informally proselytize (in an apologetic context), I am obsessed with being informed about my faith, etc........ but the most important thing I do is ask God's forgiveness when I fail in any one of these areas or in the ones I didn't mention.

I serve dinner to the poor during the holidays, I have picked up more people than you can believe in various states on the side of the road, I try to assist anyone I see in distress, I have talked people into focusing their wrath upon me instead of their weaker target, I try to forgive instead of satisfying my desire for vengeance, I donate money in several ways, etc..... but the most important thing I do is ask God's forgiveness when I fail in any one of these areas or in the ones I didn't mention.

Actually, my writing them down only accomplishes my feeling and probably seeming arrogant. Seeing someone doing good works does inspire, having them list them only makes me feel like I am bragging by proxy. While you can find more moral giants in Christianity than any other similar group it is also a group that only has the admission to moral failure and the application of grace in common across the board. Our literal entrance exam consists of an admission to failing to qualify.
There is no such entrance exam as you just referred to. It is not in Scripture.
 

Grandliseur

Well-Known Member
Please notice here neither the generic "god" word nor the specific title of "God" is being used. This discussion is not for those who worship and pursue "gods and goddesses." It is for those who are the People of YHWH/Jehovah. His commonly used title "God" these days is far too easily mishandled and misrepresented.

The question here is, "Given the specific definition of Agape provided in 1 Cor. 13:4-8, what is to be materially done to Love YHWH/Jehovah, other than merely talking about it, chatting with one's ideas, and having nice feelings?"
As I grew older and lived away from my parents, I kept in touch with them weekly, or monthly as the case might be. There was always a feeling of family between us, the memories bound us together as did our actions.

Now they are gone, but I still think fondly on them even though at the end, there was some problems I would rather have avoided if it had been possible.

My heavenly Father, the Almighty God, listens to my prayers and helps me with his Word to get through the days. He carries my daily burden as scripture says, though it is done through his son, Jesus Christ. He is closer to me than my parents in that He always is there and listens to my prayers. Comfort from Him comes from His scriptures, and after prayer for it.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Please notice here neither the generic "god" word nor the specific title of "God" is being used. This discussion is not for those who worship and pursue "gods and goddesses." It is for those who are the People of YHWH/Jehovah. His commonly used title "God" these days is far too easily mishandled and misrepresented.

The question here is, "Given the specific definition of Agape provided in 1 Cor. 13:4-8, what is to be materially done to Love YHWH/Jehovah, other than merely talking about it, chatting with one's ideas, and having nice feelings?"

Sorry. Wanted to add...

John 4:6-8

6We are from God. Whoever knows God listens to us; whoever is not from God does not listen to us. That is how we know the Spirit of truth and the spirit of deception. 7Beloved, let us love one another, becauselove comes from God. Everyonewholoves has been born of Godand knows God. 8Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love.…

If you love others-literally and spiritually-is how you love god. Its an action: a service to anyone, a worship with brothers and sisters of Jehovah, and gratitude in prayer and deed. Love is what you Do not just how you feel. Anyone can feel born again but without the confirmation of baptism, its just that a feeling of conviction without the conviction itself.

John 4:12

12No one has ever seen God; but if we love one another, God lives in us and his love is made complete in us.

If you dont love others you dont love god. To make god present you love other peole as god loves you. So you cant find god and know god Before you love others. Some have it backwards saying they love god and loving others is a result of thst love. If its the result, they must know god first.

Thats a huge claim to say one loves god without first loving others. Loving god IS loving others. So maybe the question is how do believers love others?
 
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