How do you recognize religious propaganda?

[Remté]

This can be be an accusation made by any religion against any other religion. This fits the response of most of the posts generally accusing everyone else of propaganda.

Yes I know. It is rather vague. That's why I ask.

 

[viole]

Isn't atheism a religion?

Yes, in the same way abstinence is a sexual position. Or not collecting stamps is a hobby.

Of course it's not.

Ciao

- viole

 

[SalixIncendium]

If we use the same measures to do it as you use to make scriptures unverifiable then yes.

Oh? Which scriptures have I rendered unverifiable and by what measures?

Or do you make it a habit of creating straw men to promote your religious agenda?

 

[Filter]

No definition, merely an example:

A school teaching the historical and philosophical impacts of any religion - education

A school starting the day by worship or prayer to some god - propaganda

 

[shunyadragon]

Yes I know. It is rather vague. That's why I ask.

The word religious in a generalization manner presents the problem. There is a legitimate concept of propaganda where dishonest non-factual information is promoted aggressively, and often in an institutional or governmental context. Also aggressively attacking other religions, races, cultures, and political views in the demanding absolute conformity without choice.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

This can be be an accusation made by any religion against any other religion. This fits the response of most of the posts generally accusing everyone else of propaganda

And it's what we would expect if every religion was propagandizing but everyone was blind to their own. It doesn't imply that the accusations of propaganda are invalid.

 

[shunyadragon]

And it's what we would expect if every religion was propagandizing but everyone was blind to their own. It doesn't imply that the accusations of propaganda are invalid.

The generalization is invalid.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

The generalization is invalid.

It seemd to me that the generalization came from you. You brought it up so you could smack it down.

 

[shunyadragon]

It seemd to me that the generalization came from you. You brought it up so you could smack it down.

I made no such generalization.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

I made no such generalization.

Yes you did. You did it right here:

This goes along with the line; 'If you do not conform to my belief' and, of course. 'my God' your obviously propaganda.

Again . . .

This can be be an accusation made by any religion against any other religion. This fits the response of most of the posts generally accusing everyone else of propaganda.

Not objectively meaningful.

 

[shunyadragon]

Yes you did. You did it right here:

No, I was rejecting the generalization, and meaningful use of the phrase 'religious propaganda', and not supporting it.

My response was it represents a fallacy of faulty generalization, because it is too common for people to accuse others of 'religious propaganda,' because they do not believe as they do..

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

No, I was rejecting the generalization, and meaningful use of the phrase 'religious propaganda', and not supporting it.

That's right: you were rejecting a generalization that nobody had made. That was my point.

 

[shunyadragon]

That's right: you were rejecting a generalization that nobody had made. That was my point.

The statement 'religious propaganda' is in and of itself vague and a generalization unless you put it into a greater context as to what is propaganda..

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

The statement 'religious propaganda' is in and of itself vague and a generalization unless you put it into a greater context as to what is propaganda..

Well, no. "Religious propaganda" just means "propaganda that is religious." There's nothing in the term that suggests that all religions necessarily engage in religious propaganda.

Do you think that the term "blue car" suggests that anything that's blue must be a car?

 

[shunyadragon]

Well, no. "Religious propaganda" just means "propaganda that is religious." There's nothing in the term that suggests that all religions necessarily engage in religious propaganda.

Do you think that the term "blue car" suggests that anything that's blue must be a car?

No, you're going beyond the original question with clarification. Your analogy concerns a physical object which does not apply. @Remté acknowledged the question was vague. References to a blue car is not vague, and could not be interpreted like 'religious prejudice.'

 

[columbus]

The religious person's mouth is moving and words about religion are spoken.

The OP title immediately made me think of a joke that starts out with "How do you know when a lawyer is lying?".

Tom

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

No, you're going beyond the original question with clarification. Your analogy concerns a physical object which does not apply. @Remté acknowledged the question was vague. References to a blue car is not vague, and could not be interpreted like 'religious prejudice.'

It was "religious propaganda"... regardless, I understand from your post that you felt the term was vague and decided to interpret it in the least charitable way. This still leaves us with you being the one to introduce the generalization just to smack it down.

 

[shunyadragon]

It was "religious propaganda"... regardless, I understand from your post that you felt the term was vague and decided to interpret it in the least charitable way.

This still leaves us with you being the one to introduce the generalization just to smack it down.

I will give you points for persistence, but take them away for beating your head against stone wall stubbornness and splitting frog hairs for no meaningful reason.

 

[Shad]

The OP title immediately made me think of a joke that starts out with "How do you know when a lawyer is lying?".

Tom

Yup that is what I was thinking of.

 

[Shad]

That's a phobia you describe.

Nope. Religious is not objective ergo it is propaganda by definition