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Featured How do Ismaili Muslims find love for all, hatred for none in the Qur'an?

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by stevecanuck, Jan 28, 2022.

  1. stevecanuck

    stevecanuck Well-Known Member

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    If there are any Ismaili Muslims on this forum, could they please answer this? I've been reading the Qur'an for 20 years, and I certainly can't find it. What am I missing?
     
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    The motto 'Love for All, Hatred for None' is used by the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community. If you want to know their reasoning, the best place to look might be the writings of either their founder or one of his successors.
     
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  3. MyM

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    To be honest, I would be weary of this. For not everything is love. God isn't just love. It is almost as if they are trying to promote it like the Christians do "God is Love" bit. When we know very well, God has a vengeful and wrath side to him. Afterall, he created the hellfire. In Islam, he will seek justice.

    Be careful of innovative matters into the religion.

    The Prophet pbuh told us that: “Every innovation is going astray, and every going astray will be in the Fire.” Narrated by Muslim (867) and an-Nasaa’i (1578)
     
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  4. Seeker of White Light

    Seeker of White Light Free spirit

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    If I cant have unconditionally love to all people i deserve to go to Hell.....
     
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  5. MyM

    MyM Well-Known Member

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    Why do you say that?

    In Islam, we are to be neutral. We are to love what Allah loves and hate what Allah hates. :)
     
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    Why do i say that?
    Sufism is about being love, opening up our heart to everyone. To not hold hate, anger or any attachments or judgment of others or self.

    If God want to hate people ( something I dont believe God does) that is up to God.
     
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  7. MyM

    MyM Well-Known Member

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    Allah wants the best for all his Creation. But remember, he has had his day of punishments given to those who have disobeyed him. It's in the Quran and ahadith.

    It's your right to believe in your belief, but if Allah says what makes him angry who are we to tell him he shouldn't? :) just common sense.
     
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    Sounds more like the motto of Ahmadiyya Muslims to me, and my answer would be by a heap of post hoc rationalisation under the alleged stamp of revelation.

    In my opinion.
     
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  9. Kooky

    Kooky Freedom from Sanity

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    So very unlike any other Abrahamic religion, or indeed most humanistic creeds!
     
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  10. Twilight Hue

    Twilight Hue Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.

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    Sounds like something for @parsurry.
     
  11. Gargovic Malkav

    Gargovic Malkav Well-Known Member

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    Do you believe your religion to be exactly the same as it was under the leadership of The Prophet?

    Then why did you say you deserve Hell if you wouldn't love people unconditionally?
     
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  12. Seeker of White Light

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    Islam is much more than mainstream islam. There are many ways to understand the teaching
     
  13. MyM

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    Yes The religion hasn't changed. The people do however.
     
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  14. Gargovic Malkav

    Gargovic Malkav Well-Known Member

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    I think I can agree with that.
    Do you consider yourself to be part of the people and/or generations that hasn't changed?
     
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    The question is a wrong question.
     
  16. Gargovic Malkav

    Gargovic Malkav Well-Known Member

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    I don't think it necessarily is, but maybe I asked the wrong person.
    Hopefully you're not too judgemental of those who aren't like you.
    If they (or at least some of them) turn out to be more righteous in God's view than you, you may be at "their" mercy.

    Whatever the case: Peace be with you and Allah knows best!
     
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    If you can put in another way, maybe I could answer it :)
     
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    That is the very definition of closed minded.
     
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  19. MyM

    MyM Well-Known Member

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    For someone who doesn't know about Islam yes you would think since you don't know the detail as to why I even said it.
     
  20. stevecanuck

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    Right, thanks for that. Actually the Ismailis are equally peaceful, so I do have the same question for them.
     
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