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How did Buddha meet his dead mother in heaven?

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by paarsurrey, May 13, 2012.

  1. paarsurrey

    paarsurrey Veteran Member

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    How did Buddha meet his dead mother in heaven; if he did not believe in the Creator God and His heaven?
     
  2. Gjallarhorn

    Gjallarhorn N'yog-Sothep

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    Simple: heaven does not require a Creator God. Any other questions?
     
  3. Viker

    Viker Caucasian detritus

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    What he said.

    What if heaven was not created but just an emanating presence out of everyday cluttered consciousness?
     
  4. ChristineES

    ChristineES Tiggerism
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    I concur, you can believe in an afterlife without believing in a deity or deities.
     
  5. Me Myself

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    I didn´t even know hre met his dead mother in heaven.

    But what the other peole said.

    Happy mother´s day to all mothers around! :D
     
  6. Nowhere Man

    Nowhere Man Bompu Zen Man with a little bit of Bushido.

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    It's a story.
     
  7. paarsurrey

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    "And it is said that the Blessed One, for the sake of preaching
    to his mother Maya-devi, ascended to heaven and dwelt
    with the devas. Having concluded his pious mission, he
    returned to the earth and went about again, converting
    those who listened to his teachings. 2"

    Chapter 31:

    The Buddha's Parents Attain Nirvana

    The Gospel of Buddha
     
  8. paarsurrey

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    May be it is a story-telling that Buddha was an atheist.
     
  9. The Sum of Awe

    The Sum of Awe Realitarian

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    lol OK

    But IIRC, Buddha never stated whether he believed in Gods or not, in fact I'd be surprised if he didn't at that early in time, but he just didn't mention it because that wasn't his focus.
     
  10. Gjallarhorn

    Gjallarhorn N'yog-Sothep

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    And in either case, Buddha would say they are distractions from attaining enlightenment. If you don't care for enlightenment, you don't care for Buddha. :D
     
  11. paarsurrey

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    What is your concept of heaven? Please
     
  12. Gjallarhorn

    Gjallarhorn N'yog-Sothep

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    My concept of heaven? Don't have one.

    However, in Buddhism, heaven is not run by a god, nor was it created by one. It is merely a realm created and accessed by a certain blissful ignorance, just as the realm of hell is created and accessed by pervading hatred, and the ghost realm created and accessed by addiction.
     
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    I further have to add.

    Buddha's experience of visiting heaven and coming back has a similarity with that of Muhammad who visited heavens and came back to Earth.

    The Atheists have never visited heavens; so Buddha was a Theist not an atheist.
     
  14. paarsurrey

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    I was not talking of Buddhists or the Buddhism; I am talking and following Buddha and defending him.
     
  15. Gjallarhorn

    Gjallarhorn N'yog-Sothep

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    If you would follow Buddha, you wouldn't be asking these questions, as he specifically said the Creator God is a delusion that must be forgotten to attain enlightenment. You are not defending anything except your own preconceptions. You want Buddha to be a theist so you can integrate him with whatever beliefs you already hold. Look at his own words, not the parables, and not the miracles.
     
  16. paarsurrey

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    I care for enlightenment or revelation that Buddha received from the Creator God; that is why I defend truthful Buddha.

    It has a similarity with the enlightenment or revelation that Moses received on the mountain near a bush for the Jews of his time or for the humanity at large.
     
  17. Gjallarhorn

    Gjallarhorn N'yog-Sothep

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    Then the person you speak of is not the Buddha.

     
  18. Nowhere Man

    Nowhere Man Bompu Zen Man with a little bit of Bushido.

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    I have to admit it's quite a mix there.
     
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    Please elaborate further.

    Thanks
     
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    Heaven has no physical existence; it is an abode of the soul or spirit which has no physical existence; it is in the spiritual realm nevertheless a creation of the Creator God who is only attributive.
     
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