On another thread this was offered in defense of miracles as evidence that miracles happen.
https://charismactivism.com/2012/11/03/eleven-medically-verified-healings/
The term "medically verified" is used to lend a sense of legitimacy to the claim that each is a miracle, yet there is no medical evidence that I could find that would define them all as miraculous. All I can see that is medically verified is that the individuals were ill and then very quickly not ill. There is no cause listed for each miraculous event that would be sufficient to claim it had been verified by medical practitioners. Mostly, the events were just unexpected, dramatic and rapid. I do not think unexpected, dramatic and rapid are enough to differentiate ordinary events from miracles.
I have seen the miracles can be broken into events that defy the laws of nature and those that defy the odds. It may confound the discussion, but I had both events that seem to defy nature and those that are improbable in mind when I made the initial post. Events declared miracles seem to fall into one or the other of these groups.
What I see is that something unexpected happened and it was a positive outcome, therefore it is a miracle. I just want more than that, but I do not think that is possible. Perhaps just believing something good happening is a miracle and leave it at that as long as one does not make claims based on that believed event as evidence.
Edit: I wanted to note that the anecdotes listed in the cited link are called "case histories", but there is no reference to sources or any sort of case study. That use may just be another name to lend credence to the claim of miracle and have no valid stance as evidence of serious inquiry. I do not know fully.
https://charismactivism.com/2012/11/03/eleven-medically-verified-healings/
The term "medically verified" is used to lend a sense of legitimacy to the claim that each is a miracle, yet there is no medical evidence that I could find that would define them all as miraculous. All I can see that is medically verified is that the individuals were ill and then very quickly not ill. There is no cause listed for each miraculous event that would be sufficient to claim it had been verified by medical practitioners. Mostly, the events were just unexpected, dramatic and rapid. I do not think unexpected, dramatic and rapid are enough to differentiate ordinary events from miracles.
I have seen the miracles can be broken into events that defy the laws of nature and those that defy the odds. It may confound the discussion, but I had both events that seem to defy nature and those that are improbable in mind when I made the initial post. Events declared miracles seem to fall into one or the other of these groups.
What I see is that something unexpected happened and it was a positive outcome, therefore it is a miracle. I just want more than that, but I do not think that is possible. Perhaps just believing something good happening is a miracle and leave it at that as long as one does not make claims based on that believed event as evidence.
Edit: I wanted to note that the anecdotes listed in the cited link are called "case histories", but there is no reference to sources or any sort of case study. That use may just be another name to lend credence to the claim of miracle and have no valid stance as evidence of serious inquiry. I do not know fully.