How can Trump get away with comments like this?

[Shad]

Obama didn't fawn over anyone... and he certainly didn't require the people who worked for him to grovel.

Irrelevant as the point people is can fawn over anything/one for no cause.

Why do you think Mattis, Tillerson, Kelly etc called trump an "effing moron"?

Didn't both fawn over him before? If true this does not say much about either figure.

 

[Mindmaster]

Yes if Trump pulls all troops home he gets a star in my book. But that's not going to happen,

We could argue that all troops is impossible, given the situation... but, I'd settle for massive reductions at least -- and, everything Trump has said has aligned with that...

 

[Revoltingest]

Yes the video is 3 years old, but Trump has repeated it in later interviews.
Hopefully Some day America will stop Trump.

The question.....
How can Trump get away with comments like this?

The answer.....
People don't take it seriously.
First, he isn't going to shoot anyone.
(The Secret Service would do that for him.)
Second, if he did murder anyone, it would be as this fellow said it best.....

You're offended by a stupid remark that Trump made....rightly so.
But you're also making a mountain out of a molehill.
Also, with the plethora of boneheaded Trump exhortations,
it's hard for a single one to stand out from the rest.

 

[Father Heathen]

Yes, he was

Even if he was, it's still apparent that no misdeed or failure would sway the base to dislodge their tongues from the treads of his shoes.

 

[Revoltingest]

Market is manipulated up, many think that economy is doing great...

If you refer to the stock market, it is not the economy.
It's up primarily because the rate of return on alternative investments is down.

 

[Revoltingest]

Trump's true-believers will defend anything and everything.....

The doppelganger to this problem is that anti-Trumpettes will oppose
anything & everything he does. TDS has the symptom of ignoring the
merit of any policies, & focusing solely upon hatred for him, & the blind
rejection of all, even the positive, eg, The First Step Act.

Too much of their political commentary is naught but name calling.
"He's a sissy, a narcissist, a bully, a clown, a rapist, a Nazi, a racist!"
What matters to them is this shrill mantra to stoke their feelings of hatred.
Makes it hard to discuss policy.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

Trump may be a gross individual, but I still don't see him losing 2020 unless the Dems decide to go for a moderate candidate who can actually pull some Trump supporters away and gain widespread independent support. A progressive candidate won't be able to cut it.

Ratcheting technique. Republicans call to be met half way when our candidates are already 'center right' by the rest of the world's standards. So we take a step right to be 'moderate'...then the right takes a step backwards and asks again to be met in the middle.
Dems need to stop compromising with bullies or they'll lose everything they represent in the 'compromise.' We don't need more center right moderates, thats largely what lost Hillary, splitting her vote with Bernie. We need to swing further left.

 

[leov]

If you refer to the stock market, it is not the economy.
It's up primarily because the rate of return on alternative investments is down.

If you refer to the stock market, it is not the economy.
It's up primarily because the rate of return on alternative investments is down.

It is not, but I met too many who judge economy by the market, minds are easy to manipulate too.

 

[Revoltingest]

It is not, but I met too many who judge economy by the market, minds are easy to manipulate too.

The stock market means much to lay folk & economists alike.
Why? It's a quantitative measure & it's a simple number.
That's so much easier than looking at complex issues like
business & market expansion vs contraction.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

The doppelganger to this problem is that anti-Trumpettes will oppose
anything & everything he does. TDS has the symptom of ignoring the
merit of any policies, & focusing solely upon hatred for him, & the blind
rejection of all, even the positive, eg, The First Step Act.

Too much of their political commentary is naught but name calling.
"He's a sissy, a narcissist, a bully, a clown, a rapist, a Nazi, a racist!"
What matters to them is this shrill mantra to stoke their feelings of hatred.
Makes it hard to discuss policy.

This post contains calling opposition to Trump deranged, shrill and blind, others call them snowflakes etc. People in glass houses...

 

[leov]

The stock market means much to lay folk & economists alike.
Why? It's a quantitative measure & it's a simple number.
That's so much easier than looking at complex issues like
business & market expansion vs contraction.

Market is 100% pure manipulation.

 

[Revoltingest]

This post contains calling opposition to Trump deranged, shrill and blind....

No, you're reading it wrongly.
Opposition to Trump is fine & dandy with me.
My post addressed the fervent anti-Trumpettes,
who are consumed with personal hatred, & unable
to be objective.

I see things differently, ie, I don't support or oppose
Trump as a person (although I find him loathsome.)
I care about the merits or faults of each act or policy.
I oppose some things he's done...just not all.

 

[Revoltingest]

Market is 100% pure manipulation.

Who is manipulating it & how?
Keep this discussion brief...we don't want to derail the thread.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

No, you're reading it wrongly.
Opposition to Trump is fine & dandy with me.
My post addressed the fervent anti-Trumpettes,
who are consumed with personal hatred, & unable
to be objective.

I see things differently, ie, I don't support or oppose
Trump as a person (although I find him loathsome.)
I care about the merits or faults of each act or policy.
I oppose some things he's done...just not all.

And people who don't separate the man from the position because his attitude, speech and behaviors outside policymaking are not politically irrelevant and do in fact impact things like cultural perception, foreign relations, and even business and finance? (I've little doubt Trump is using his seat to personally enrich himself in by setting up his investors in whatever way he can get away with.)
Trump being loathsome is relevant political criticism.

 

[metis]

@metis

If this doesn't make you sick to your stomach, you are not an American.

President Trump's first full cabinet meeting - CNN Video

Ya, I watched it, but at least I was happy that I hadn't just eaten my dinner.

 

[sooda]

Irrelevant as the point people is can fawn over anything/one for no cause.



Didn't both fawn over him before? If true this does not say much about either figure.

If the men around Trump have to be diminished and look small for the sake of Trump's ego, America looks really sick.

 

[sooda]

Ya, I watched it, but at least I was happy that I hadn't just eaten my dinner.

Can you identify the source of your nausea?

So much for the Titans of Industry.. They have to grovel to Trump.

 

[Revoltingest]

Trump being loathsome is relevant political criticism.

I agree.
But one should not let negative views of the man overwhelm
one to the extent policy is either ignored or blindly opposed.
The OP is an example of giving inappropriate significance
& meaning to a boneheaded remark.

 

[metis]

Can you identify the source of your nausea?

So much for the Titans of Industry.. They have to grovel to Trump.

And I'm quite sure that many of them are just as "honest" as he is. But hey, we gotta remember that he is the hedonist's best friend, and "the art of the deal" well feeds into that, thus all too often putting materialism heads and shoulders over morals. For so many of them, it's all about $ and what $ can buy, and I think we each know some of these people who do just that.

 

[Stanyon]

Even if he was, it's still apparent that no misdeed or failure would sway the base to dislodge their tongues from the treads of his shoes.

Nor any of his successes acknowledged by his detractors.