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Featured How can a Jew reject Jesus as the Messiah?

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by ayin, Dec 29, 2020.

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  1. Skywalker

    Skywalker Well-Known Member

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    I believe that what I said refutes the notion that Jesus appeared out of nowhere.
     
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    Star Wars didn't have an impact on history like Jesus did. The sayings of the people in star wars never had life lessons to the degree that the sayings of Jesus did.
     
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    Not everything is literal to the most minute detail. Jesus is the second Adam in the sense that he redeemed mankind spiritually instead of leading it into sin.
     
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    A religion of Truth should be able to say the truth.
     
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    Zechariah 11:12-13 mentions the Messiah being betrayed for thirty pieces of silver. While the verse about Bethlehem is kind of vague, that verse is not.
     
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    Ok, now I’m curious: what is Joshua in Hebrew?
     
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    Yehoshua is Joshua in Hebrew.
     
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    The name is Yehoshu'a with the stress on the 3rd syllable.

    There is a biblical character by that name who is also called by the nickname Yeyshu'a (stress on the first syllable I believe).
     
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    I’d be shocked if he showed up in a car, not the most common mode of transportation.
     
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    The name of Jesus was the Hebrew name of Joshua.
     
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    Jesus being called Lord in 1 Corinthians 15:6 is a title of Jesus being God. Paul was talking about God the Father, and the Lord, God the Son. People use the term the Lord to refer to Jesus.

    Jesus was talking to the Pharisees about polytheism being false doctrine.

    Jesus wasn't denying being the Son of God when he said my Father.

    The plurality within the Trinity had different knowledge about the second coming of Jesus.

    Jesus was asking the ruler why he called him good if the term good has a lot of implications. He was actually implying that He was God.

    The wills of the Father and the Son were in alignment because they were of the same essence.

    The Father sent the Son implies submission within the Godhead, not that the Son isn't God.

    Jesus said my God and your God because he was also in his humanity, and he was speaking on the same level as them.
     
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    It's actually a slang version of "Joshua" in Koine Greek, meaning "God saves".
     
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    The name Yeshua is a reference to him being the Messiah. He never would have been given that name if he wasn't God.
     
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    Actually it was a common name back then in Hebrew, including that of a prophet.
     
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    The name of Jesus means salvation. Hebrew Roots Movement Attacks The Name Of Jesus

     
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    No, Jesus was not a Hebrew name.
     
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    Everyone knows that Clapton is God...
     
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    Why would the establishment of the Kingdom require the earthlings to accept or reject anything? The Kingdom was to be imposed, despite the Romans, despite the Jewish hierarchy, despite what the average citizen might think, and represent the triumph of Jesus' followers, surely?

    To the best of my recollection the prayer "thy kingdom come" doesn't mention a plebiscite, or the concerns of the Olympian religions, the Zoroastrians, or the Hindus, or Buddhists, or followers of the Great Spirit or the Rainbow Serpent, does it?
     
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    Yeshua and Joshua are cousin names.
     
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    The name "Jesus" is from the Romanized form "Iesus" from New Testament Greek "Ἰησοῦς" (Iēsous) to render Aramaic "Yeshua" from Hebrew Yehoshua (usually Anglicized as "Joshua"). Contemporary tombs tell us it was a common name in 1st-century Judea.
     
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